Trusting Snape/Life debt again
dumbledore11214
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Sat Mar 4 18:14:30 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 149102
> Neri:
> >I'd say LID!Snape explains all the above with practically no
reading
> >between the lines. Faith wouldn't have supported it otherwise <g>.
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/145024
PJ wrote:
> Dumbledore says "Professor Snape could not bear being in your
father's
> debt... I do believe he worked so hard to protect you this year
because *he
> felt* that would make him and your father even. Then he could go
back to
> hating your father's memory in peace..." (SS pg 300 US - and
emphasis mine)
>
> So, as I read this there is really nothing concrete to this debt
since the
> man he owed it to is dead. We're told "he FELT" rather than he
owed... This
> was one man's decision to rid himself of his Potter curse and not
a
> magically enforceable thing at all. Dumbledore's "I do believe"
tells us
> that much since if it were a magical reality he'd have told Harry
so just as
> he did with Pettigrew.
Alla:
Oh, PJ I afraid I probably have to disagree with you. I think that
there is a VERY big reason why we don't know how exactly magical
Lifedebt works and whether it can be transferred from father to son,
etc. I think it will play a very significant role at the end. As to
Dumbledore saying " I believe", well, I will be the first one to say
that Dumbledore made many mistakes through the books, but those are
IMO mistakes based on emotions either because DD had no clue how to
deal with the emotions of others or his own emotions, BUT IMO DD
pretty much does not make factual mistakes. His "I believe" reminds
me of "from this point forth, we shall be leaving the firm
foundation of fact and journeying together through the murky marshes
of memory into thickets of wildest guesswork. From here on in,
Harry, I may be as woefully wrong as Humphrey Belcher, who believed
the time was ripe for cheese cauldron" - HBP, p.,197.
DD thinks he is guessing here, but didn't JKR say that DD guesses
are never too far of the mark?
I view the quote you brought up in the same light. I think DD is
correct here, but that is IMO of course.
PJ:
> We are told that Snape had a life debt to *James* due to the prank
but we're
> also being told that Snape *chose* to unofficially transfer this
debt from
> father to son as a matter of honor... of sorts. (yes, I think
Snape has
> honor within his own personal moral confines) So he actually owes
Harry
> nothing.
Alla:
But do we KNOW for sure that what Snape did was "unofficial" so to
speak? Maybe mechanics of the Life debt do require to transfer
unpaid Life debt to family member otherwise you will die or
something like that?
PJ:
>> So far I can't see any canon for a life-indebted Snape (other
than the
> UNofficial debt Snape takes on himself) at all. What I see is a
real good,
> first class explanation of OFH!Snape's motivations. ;-)
Alla:
But LID!Snape and OFH!Snape can coexist rather peacefully. Right,
Neri? I was so sure of it, but I don't want to misinterpret you.
JMO,
Alla
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