role of Order of the Phoenix

allies426 AllieS426 at aol.com
Mon Mar 6 01:39:59 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149143

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Magda Grantwich <mgrantwich at ...> 
wrote:

> Before we can answer this question, another one has to be asked:
> 
> What is the role of the Order, now that Dumbledore is (definitely)
> dead?
> 
> For all of Lupin's comments in OOTP about the Order being in a
> stronger position than during the first war, it's still not exactly
> clear what the Order spends its time doing.  Especially now that they
> won't have Snape to feed them information from the DE camp so that
> they can take pre-emptive action.
> 
> Magda
> 

Allie (now very angry that her first post was eaten by cyberspace!!):

I've been thinking for a while that the Order, while not incompetent 
like the DE's, really doesn't seem to be very effective at... 
anything!  Harry was attacked by Dementors, the prophecy was almost 
stolen (ok Dumbledore's fault but let's not slander the dead), 
Dumbledore was murdered in his own school, etc. etc.  It's also not 
cler to me that the DE's were going to do ANYTHING once they broke 
into the school besides attempt to murder Dumbledore, and he would 
normally be more than competent to take them all on.  I think the 
presence of the Order may actually have made things worse.  Ginny, 
Neville, Luna, etc wouldn't have been involved at all if there hadn't 
been a raging battle.  I'm sure Fenrir Greyback would have eaten some 
children if he could have, but unless the DE's were planning on 
breaking into the dorms and murdering the children in their sleep 
(which I admit is possible), the children weren't really in danger.  
I'm not saying that the Order should have left the school unprotected, 
but I don't see how they helped anything.  (I'm leaving Snape out 
because he's such a wild card.)

We also have very little canon of anything that the Order has done to 
stall Voldemort.  Maybe that's why I really don't care for book 5.  
(Enter an army of giants, werewolves, and disgruntled Ministry 
employees to prove me wrong!)

(Sorry if this posts twice.)








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