Snape Survey, Snapeity, Dumbledore's sacrifice.

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 149201


> Carol responds:
> Then why does DD answer, "I am sure. I trust Severus Snape 
completely"
> (HBP Am. ed. 549). Is he lying to Harry, saying that he's "sure" 
when
> he's not, that the trusts him "completely" when his trust is
> incomplete? Why in the world would Dumbledore do that? 

Alla:

The way I read it Dumbledore may have tried to convince himself and 
sort of decided that he indeed convinced.


Carol: 
> And note that his trust in Snape is reiterated repeatedly in the
> following chapter.
Carol:
> And note that his trust in Snape is reiterated repeatedly in the
> following chapter. When Harry and DD return after DD has drunk the
> potion, we have:
> 
> "It is . . . Professor Snape whom I need" (580, ellipsis in 
original).
> 
> and
> 
> "'Severus,' said Dumbledore clearly. 'I need Severus . . .'" (same
> page, ellipsis in original).

Alla:

Dumbledore may NEED Snape, but he does not say that he TRUSTS Snape 
here. But even if he does, I am not saying that his trust in Snape 
dissappeared completely, all that I am saying is that it is possible 
based on DD looking as if he tried to make up his mind is that 
maybe, just maybe Harry's doubts got to him and he started having 
doubts too.


Carol:
> No evidence anywhere that Dumbledore's trust in Snape has in any 
way
> diminished, or that Snape has given him any reason to distrust 
him. On
> the contrary, Snape has saved three lives directly and one 
indirectly
> in the course of that school year--surely cementing DD's trust 
rather
> than the reverse. 

Alla:

Carol, I just brought canon example which could be interpreted as DD 
indeed wavering his trust in Snape. You are not persuaded, that is 
your right, but to me there is a possible evidence of DD hesitating 
about his trust.

 
> Carol, noting that when no canon is available to support a 
position,
> there's no disgrace in conceding defeat
>

Alla, very politely pointing that she does not need lecturing when 
to accept defeat and when not. Disregarding canon I brought is your 
prerogative, telling me how to conduct a debate is NOT.