Remus Lupin: Good man doing nothing (long!)

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No: HPFGUIDX 149307

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:
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> Betsy Hp:
> It is common, but it's not good. (Ick, mobs.)  I actually give 
Lupin 
> a greater responsibility than the laughing crowd.  Not just 
because 
> as a Prefect he *does* have a greater responsibility, but because 
he 
> isn't laughing.  Unlike the crowd, Lupin realizes that what's 
going 
> on is *wrong* and yet he still takes no action.  He waits for, and 
> possibly depends upon, Lily to come to the rescue.  And until Lily 
> *does* something, evil triumphs.  
> 
> An interesting question is, how *long* does evil triumph?  How 
long 
> do James and Sirius get to prank whoever they want, whenever they 
> want? Until Sirius goes too far?  Until James finally decides to 
> listen to Lily?  And could Lupin's willingness to let James and 
> Sirius get away with what he lets them get away with be what leads 
> them to think Lupin might be the traitor?

But did Lupin act the way he did in Snape's Worst Memory because he 
felt that James and Sirius were doing wrong or because they were 
doing it in the open (thus undermining his authority as prefect)? 
Lupin appears to have tolerated the Marauders relationship with 
Snape, even after the "Prank" and he appears to have engaged in some 
of their rule-breaking (as seen on the detention cards in HBP). Even 
in PoA Lupin doesn't speak up when Sirius says that Snape "deserved" 
the Prank (has anyone considered that maybe Lupin actually gave his 
semi-approval to the plan...maybe he has his own reasons for not 
liking Snape). And throughout the course of PoA Lupin is taking pot-
shots at Snape...the boggart lesson, covering for Harry, etc. So 
Lupin has gone his bit in keeping that conflict going.

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> Betsy Hp:
> I can see that.  (And can I just say that I thought about you, 
Nora, 
> while writing that, "weirdly too trusting of Dumbledore" bit? 
<g>)  
> I also wonder if Lupin didn't depend on Dumbledore to do his 
action 
> for him.  Harry will be safe because Dumbledore is there, etc.  
Sort 
> of like how he let Lily do his action for him in the pensieve 
> scene.  
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> Betsy Hp:
> Does he resent that, I wonder?  Because while putting all of his 
> trust in Dumbledore, Lupin also sounded a bit bitter with the role 
> Dumbledore had assigned him.  I can totally see a love/hate 
dynamic 
> going on there.
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> Betsy Hp:
> Very interesting.  That first quote seems to speak towards the WW, 
> and their paranoid seperating into tiny little groups.  Whereas 
> Dumbledore (and the Sorting Hat!) does his best to gather everyone 
> toghether.  In a sense you could say that the Marauders failed to 
> associate and have therefore fallen, one by one.
> 
> The second quote shows *how* the Marauders failed.  Lupin slept on 
> his watch and Peter went over to the enemy, and both of them 
failed 
> their friends.

Snipping a lot here from an excellent series of posts
I do think 
that Lupin has his issues with Dumbledore and I do think that he 
uses Dumbledore as a clutch sometimes. However it should be noted 
that Lupin was part of a group of wizards that managed to do an 
incredible amount of stuff under Dumbledore's nose so I think his 
view of Dumbledore is probably not the same as that of the average 
wizard. So Lupin both respects Dumbledore but also, some part of him 
anyway, realizes that Dumbledore is human. 

I think this is one of the reasons why I like the Marauders and 
Snape is that they don't seem to be as beholden to Dumbledore as 
nearly everyone else (Harry earned more respect from me by 
disagreeing with Dumbledore). So I think that that also ties into 
Lupin
the Marauders as a group (James and Sirius especially) while 
on Dumbledore's side
seem to be independent minded (Sirius openly 
states that Dumbledore was wrong about Snape in OotP
again earning 
respect from me).  

Quick_Silver