Finding the horcruxes

Talisman talisman22457 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 9 07:57:58 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149311

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> 
wrote:
> In CoS, Harry was able to get Gryffindor's sword from the Hat 
because
> he was a true Gryffindor. Would a true Hufflepuff be able to 
recover the
> Cup and a true Slytherin be able to find the Locket in the same 
way?
> 
> It's almost too easy. But it could work. And it fits with uniting 
the Houses.


Sounds a lot like a theory I expounded last year on another site we  
belong to:

TOC Message 3356 of 3995
From: "Talisman" <talisman22457 at yahoo.com> 
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 12:58 pm 
Subject: Bloody Relics and Unexpected 

We know that Voldemort is the last descendant of Salazar Slytherin's 
line, now fortuitously reconstituted and active in the WW (thanks to 
DD's tireless efforts). 

Rowling has nixed Harry as an heir to Gryffindor, so the money is on 
DD as having been in Godric's family tree, leaving the redoubtable 
Aberforth as an extant member of that blood line (assuming DD *is* 
even dead, which, I agree, is no sure thing.) This comports nicely 
with Rowling's suggestion that DD's family line is of future 
interest. 

To this I add Zacharias Smith, a Hufflepuff--who, along with his 
father--displays a certain, shall we say, aristocratic haughtiness. 
I'm betting that he is related to Hepzibah Smith, and so a blood 
heir to Helga Hufflepuff. 

What we have, then, on the eve of Book 7, is a gathering of the 
blood. A small matter of identifying a Ravenclaw descendant, and we 
are ready for some serious Founders' mojo. 

Just what will come of it remains to be seen, but I'm betting that 
the need for Slyth blood is one of the reasons DD has kept LV around 
all these years.

As to the location of Hxes, I don't really expect that to take as 
much time as might otherwise be anticipated. The bloodline 
contingent might come in handy here, too, though it's not the only 
reason they are *on stage.* 

For one thing, though she's an awful fibber, Rowling moderated the 
Mugglenetter's expostulations--regarding the difference, going into 
Book 7, of our *knowing* what Harry has to do
--with the quiet suggestion that Harry (and the giddy interviewers) 
might *think* he knows what he has to do, but there will be at least 
one, hmmmmm, shall we say, "unexpected task," which I'm betting will 
throw things rather a different way. 

For another, we know from Hepzibah Smith that the Founders' relics 
have special powers, all their own. 

She only dabbled with the powers imbued in the Hufflepuff Cup. 
Perhaps simply out of the greater interest she had in her ancestor's 
item, but also possibly because a "true heir" would have more 
success with the powers of a given ancestor's relic. 

If so, she wouldn't have bothered experimenting with the Slyth 
pendant, not being blood-linked to activate it's powers. 

If Rowling has made good her claim of leaving sufficient clues, it 
would seem that additional Hx clues are to be found in CoS--again, 
confirming the link between Books 2 and 6--and making good Rowling's 
other claim: that Harry learned something important in Book 2 that 
relates to Book 6. 

Harry *did* use a Founder's object in CoS to defeat a *version* of 
LV, and a troublesome serpent in his employ. (A nice bit of 
foreshadowing/mirror symmetry.) 

Fawkes showed up to assist Harry. I think we have to conclude that 
this was per DD's instructions, not merely due to Harry's *loyalty* 
(which, as I've argued before, was not particularly in play at the 
time, and which would warrant questioning why Fawkes doesn't show up 
in all of Harry's other confrontations, or even on behalf of other 
*loyal* order members, etc.)

Fawkes delivered the Sorting Hat. I'm guessing this was per DD's 
instructions, as well. Harry asks for help, and the sword appears. 

Later, DD tells him that "only a true Gryffindor" could have pulled 
the sword out of the hat. 

Well, DD is a bit of a fibber, himself. Harry isn't literally a 
*true Gryffindor,* certainly not in the way Tom Riddle/LV is a *true 
Slytherin.* But DD, who *is* a true Gryffindor, had a point to make, 
or maybe two. 

Our silver-bearded heir of Gryffindor likely directed the sword to 
respond to Harry. 

Not only did he want to save Harry's buns and secure Harry's 
identification with/ownership of his place in Gryffindor House, but 
he has given a little lesson in what a *true heir* can do vis-a-vis 
the hat, with it's bits of Founders' brains, and a bona fide 
Founder's relic. 

If the Slyth pendant isn't just waiting for Harry in Kreature's 
nest, available even by the master's command, then perhaps LV put 
enough of himself into Harry to allow the boy to conjure it out of 
the old chapeau. 

Zacharias will have to be reasoned with, but after all, he has a 
claim to the cup and might want it back for his Hope chest. 

Who will the Ravenclaw assistant be? Luna? That would be dandy. It 
would teach a thing or two to the Ravenclaws who don't think she 
*belongs in their house.* She'd certainly be willing enough to help 
Harry defeat the Dark Lord. 

As for the non-Founders' item Hxes, LV will be coming after Harry, 
or easy enough to bait if he is being coy, and Nagini is never too 
far from his side. Alternatively, Harry has the touted scar-link and 
can work on homing-in on the Dark Lair, should Mohammad need to come 
to the Mountain. 

Now, why do we need Voldemort and Aberforthfs blood. Something to 
gnaw on, here. 

Talisman, thinking that what with untapped special powers and scraps 
of tainted soul, those relics are fairly exploding with potential. 








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