Lupin and The Marauders (was:Re: Remus Lupin: Good man doing nothing)

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> >>a_svirn:
> Maybe they combined then? "Marauders" is a rather strange name for 
> an association of good men. 
 
> >>Betsy Hp:
> > The second quote shows *how* the Marauders failed.  Lupin slept on
> > his watch and Peter went over to the enemy, and both of them failed
> > their friends.

> >>a_svirn:
> Ha! Good one. But not before Sirius failed Lupin by using him as an 
> instrument of petty revenge.

Betsy Hp:
Yeah, I agree that the Marauders were not a good group of guys.  
(Lupin as much as admits that they'd have found "Harry in lethal 
danger" amusing.)  I also agree that they didn't make a good group of 
friends.  Gosh, the ease with which they totally collapsed under a bit 
of pressure points to that!

I think you had a tight friendship between Sirius and James, and Lupin 
and Peter provided an audience.  It's just that Lupin sometimes had to 
force his laughter. 

> >>Quick_Silver:
> But did Lupin act the way he did in Snape's Worst Memory because he
> felt that James and Sirius were doing wrong or because they were
> doing it in the open (thus undermining his authority as prefect)?
> Lupin appears to have tolerated the Marauders relationship with
> Snape, even after the "Prank" and he appears to have engaged in some
> of their rule-breaking (as seen on the detention cards in HBP). Even
> in PoA Lupin doesn't speak up when Sirius says that Snape "deserved"
> the Prank (has anyone considered that maybe Lupin actually gave his
> semi-approval to the plan...maybe he has his own reasons for not
> liking Snape). And throughout the course of PoA Lupin is taking pot-
> shots at Snape...the boggart lesson, covering for Harry, etc. So
> Lupin has gone his bit in keeping that conflict going.

Betsy Hp:
Lupin *has to* dislike Snape.  He must see Snape as an evil, nasty 
person.  Otherwise, what would that make James and Sirius?  What would 
that make him?

I do think Lupin's problem though, was with *what* James and Sirius 
were doing, not *where*.  I shudder to think what would have happened 
to Snape if James and Sirius got him cornered in a dark room with no 
witnesses.  They were skirting some very disturbing edges already.  
I'm glad the gloves stayed on.  Unleashed, Sirius was quite willing 
for Snape to be *eaten*.  By his "friend" no less.  (Something Lupin 
seems remarkably okay with.  No wonder Snape lost any notion of trust 
the first time Lupin forgot his meds.)

It's interesting though, Lupin's not very frequent appearence on the 
detention cards.  Was he putting in his time to keep in good with 
Sirius and James?  Or was he really the sneakiest Marauder?  I suspect 
the former, with Peter as the one who usually got away.

Betsy Hp