Trusting Snape

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 149404

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > A task Voldemort expected Draco to fail and Snape to finish.  As 
> > per Snape in the Spinner's End chapter, anyway.
> > <snip>
 
> >>PJ:
> We don't know for an absolute fact that Voldermort expected that, 
> do we?  We heard it only from Snape.  While I *do* think he was   
> telling the truth about knowing Draco's task, I'm not at all sure 
> that Voldermort specifically asked (demanded?) that Snape do the   
> deed if Draco should fail.  Others think he was lying about almost 
> everything but I think he may just have stretched the truth a      
> speck right there.  <g>

Betsy Hp:
Oh, not an absolute fact, no.  I agree, Snape is playing a close 
game here, so it's no simple thing figuring out what is truth, lie 
or half-lie.  But if Voldemort did want Dumbledore dead (and why 
would he not?) it makes sense that he assign his man on the spot the 
job.  (I don't think anyone thought Draco could accomplish the task 
set for him.)  Snape himself only says that he expects Voldemort 
would want him to do it in the end.  So yeah, there's a bit of guess 
work involved.  Though the fact that Bellatrix didn't dismiss 
Snape's statement is suggestive, IMO.

> >>PJ: 
> No, I've always been firmly counted in the OFH!Snape camp but have 
> lately been considering the potential worthiness of the LID!Snape 
> theo... umm... no.  Scena.....errrr, no.  IDEA!!  <g>

Betsy Hp:
Hee!  That LID, um, thing.  It's a bit too clinical for me.  Plus, I 
can't see that being Dumbledore's iron clad reason to trust Snape.  
It didn't get him to trust Peter Pettigrew after all.  But that's 
another discussion. <g>

> >>PJ:
> Snape's statement that Harry belonged to the Dark Lord *was* a     
> true one (imo) but that didn't mean leave him lying there so that 
> Voldermort has to go through all the trouble of catching him      
> again.  I think Voldermort will be livid when he finds out Snape   
> had the opportunity to bring Harry to him and didn't.
> As for why, Snape left Harry there?  To be totally honest, I don't 
> know.  As far as I can see OFH!Snape doesn't answer that           
> question.  LID!Snape does, of course, but...  Maybe at some point 
> I'll give him and his thought processes more time, but as he is my 
> least favorite character, I don't worry about him all that much.

Betsy Hp:
That's why I'm so completely DDM!Snape.  It explains *everything*. 
<g>  Because, yeah, it makes no sense whatsoever for OFH!Snape to 
kill Dumbledore to begin with.  And once Dumbledore was dead, it 
makes no sense for Snape to not bring Harry to Voldemort.

LID!Snape strikes me as cynical enough to be more OFH than anything 
else, so there's the same problems.  For a good idea of what a 
person completely out for themselves would do I think Peter makes a 
good example.

> >>PJ:
> You think Peter came up with that potion to return Voldy to his    
> body?
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
No.  I think Peter *made* the potion that returned Voldemort to 
physical form.  I'm pretty sure the potion was either created or 
discovered by Voldemort.

> >>PJ:
> Bellatrix totally dislikes Snape and appears to think he's a      
> weasel, but thinking he's a weasel isn't the same thing as feeling 
> threatened at all.

Betsy Hp:
I think Bellatrix likes to give the *impression* that she thinks 
Snape is beneath her.  But she must see him as some sort of threat, 
otherwise she wouldn't be so eager to discredit him.  And seeing how 
well Snape played her, I don't think she's unwise to see him as such.

Betsy Hp