High Noon for OFH!Snape

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 149484

Nora:
<SNIP>
> To counter your assertion, a good portion of the DDM!Snape 
argument 
> is based on thematic arguments of personal preference.  "Oh, it 
would 
> be so mean and unfair if he weren't good in the long run.  JKR 
would 
> be sending bad messages about second chances and Slytherins and 
> underdogs.  It would totally ruin Dumbledore's character if he 
were 
> mistaken about Snape and Harry were right, because Harry is the 
> student who has to learn from his mentor.  It would totally ruin 
the 
> entire theme of the books."

Alla:

Hehe. SO true, so very true, Nora. The thing which always confuses 
me about such argument ( that unless Snape is DD!M, it would send a 
bad message , that Dumbledore's trust into Snape should be 
validated, or else the thematic significance will be ruined, 
etc,etc.) is that Okay, I can understand that sending the message 
that Dumbledore's trust in Snape was good, because he changed, was 
remorseful is viewed as attractive. I get it.

What I never understood is why  the message that Dumbledore's trust 
COULD be mistaken ( and if I may we saw it so many times in the 
books already IMO), somehow is SO terrible and so much worse for the 
kids than sending a message that killing is Okay, as long as it is 
you know for the good cause.

I mean, I will be the first one to say that JKR DOES aim her books 
on the younger audience first and foremost, but I think that JKR 
thinks that kids are capable of understanding some other messages - 
like person CAN blew their chance at redemption and it does not mean 
that the person  who gave that chance to another person is somehow 
stupid because of his trust.

I will not respect DD any less if it will turn out that his trust in 
Snape was wrong. (Although maybe Neri IS right and it will turn out 
that DD was correct to trust Snape in fulfilling his Life Debt, but 
not being loyal to him).

I think that kids are able to do figure such messages.

NOT saying that this is what will happen of course, not saying that 
I am right. Just saying that arguing that it is not going to happen 
because that would be sending a wrong message, because we don't like 
it, is weak, IMO.

We, IMO don't know what kind of messages JKR is interested in 
sending at the end. it can IMO turn out that her message is totally 
different from what we want( myself included of course) the final 
message to be.
 
Nora:
> I got into a discussion once where the other person stated that if 
> Snape were evil, JKR had totally destroyed all the value in her 
> books, and she would continue to believe in her reading because it 
> would be better than what JKR wrote.  (Yes, I have seen all of 
these 
> arguments.)

Alla:

Hehe. Now THAT is funny. Although I am not the one to talk, since I 
certainly thought on the occasions that if JKR made some other 
decisions , that would be better. :-) Too bad she forgot to ask 
me. :-)

But yeah, I am quite confident that I would be able to enjoy most 
anything at the end ( except Harry dying - THAT would mean for  me 
the end of rereading of the books. I am pretty sure of it.)

JMO,

Alla