What Dumbledore trusts Snape to do? WAS: Re: High Noon for OFH!Snape

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No: HPFGUIDX 149578

> Neri:
> >You mean, you can't see JKR trapping us with double meanings and
> >taking advantage of our incorrect assumptions? Really? And you 
can't
> >see Dumbledore, umm, somehow neglecting to add a few critical 
words
> >that would make his statement unequivocal?

Sydney: 
> That's not a double-meaning.  That's a.. well, a meaning.  When JKR
> does a tricky-dicky, when you read back over it, it all lines up. 
> Dumbledore assuring various Order members that they can trust Snape
> with their lives, when he actually meant, oh, no, just HARRY'S 
life,
> he'd totally sell YOU down the river, but I'm going to be coy about
> it, hee hee-- that doesn't really line up for me.  

Alla:

But he does not, Sydney, Dumbledore does not say that - that various 
Order members should  trust Snape with their lives, or at least I 
should say to cover myself that I really don't remember him saying 
that. If you do, could you please send me to the relevant canon?

And I can totally see exactly what Neri is arguing happening that DD 
trusted Snape to do one thing and one thing only - to pay off his 
debt, whatever way this debt works.

Now, Dumbledore does not even say that he trusts Snape with HIS 
life, no? (Although I can be wrong on that one) Dumbledore has no 
problem saying that he trusts Hagrid with his life, but with Snape - 
it is just I trust him, etc,etc.

Sydney: 
> And, (I don't have my books with me, but off the top of my head),
> Dumbledore testifies in court-- the sort of thing I presume he 
swore
> an oath to -- that Snape came over to OUR side before V-morts fall,
> that "he's now no more a Death Eater than I am".

Alla:

How is it relevant to Dumbledore maybe omiting what he trusts Snape 
to do? Sure, it could be true that at that moment in time Snape was 
not a DE, why not? 

But could it be that he was not completely loyal to DD either? I'd 
say it could. Or could it be that the only reason why he was not a 
DE was that he wanted to get rid of Life debt?

Sydney:
 And Harry asks him
> in HBP, "How can you be sure Snape's on OUR side?", and D-dore 
says,
> "I'm sure.  I trust Severus Snape completely".  He's saying, he's 
on
> OUR side.  Meaning, yours and mine.  Our.  Side.  This is another
> argument that he's not actually saying he trusts Snape completely 
when
> he says he trusts.. Snape ... completely... I dunno.  I think 
you're
> clipping bits off the jigsaw-piece here.

Alla:

Dumbledore looks as if he tries to make up his mind and THEN says 
that he trusts Snape, if I may bring it up again. Could it be 
because he is NOT sure that Snape is on our side and he does NOT say 
that directly, he just says what you quoted. "I am sure. I trust 
Severus Snape completely" Could it be that he is not answering 
Harry's question directly, but just reaffirms his trust in Snape 
paying his life debt? I think it is possible, personally.

JMO,

Alla, who still csnnot figure out how life debts work in 
Potterverse, but SO wants to and who thinks that the fact that Ginny 
does not owe a debt to Harry could be a clue.