Portkey in GOF - Logistics

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 14 21:20:28 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149623

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kemper <iam.kemper at ...> wrote:
>
>   bboyminn:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Regardless of the object the Fake!Moody enchants, there is a good
> > chance that some one other than Harry will pick it up. ...
> >
> > Then Amiable Dorsai proposed:
> > I've said it before, I'll say it again: I think this is the 
> > single most important factor in LV's decision to snatch Harry,
> > not at some random time, but when the whole Wizarding World is 
> > watching.  ...
> >
> > Theater.
> >
> > -snip-
> > Theater.
> >
> > ...-snip-
> > 
> >
> >
> ..
> .
> Kemper now:
> While Amiable D offers a good reason, I don't see Voldemort as 
> attention seeking.  What evidence we've seen is Tom and Voldemort
> as secretive. Voldemort didn't leave his business card at Madam 
> Bones ....  He shows up at the DoM not to battle.  He's there for
> the desire to learn the prophecy ...
> 

bboyminn:

Once again, I'm reminded of several blind men 'looking' at an
elephant. Considering that Voldemort's objective is to /take over the
world/; that's hardly an occupation for a quiet reluctant recluse.
Yes, Voldemort is secretive, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that
he is an egomaniacal megalomaniac. He holds power by holding the
illusion of power. People are afraid of him because he wields the
force that maintains the illusion of fear. He is ruthless and brutal,
but also a great orator; one who knows how to tell people the things
they WANT to hear, no matter how irrational those things are. An
extention of this talent is to tell the most blatant and outrageous
lies and in doing so to make people believe that those lies are the
absolute irrefutable gospel truth.

If that isn't pure theater on the world stage, then I don't know what is. 

We can see similar examples in the real world today. Take Osama Bin
Laden. He is very secretive. He feeds his followers on the most
blatant and irrational lies, and they believe it with deathly fervor.
He is constantly re-assering his absolute power. He takes action on
the world stage that make him one of the most well known crimials. 

Yet, to anyone who is rational, to anyone who can divorce themselves
from the hyper-inflamed rhetoric and blatant lies, we see that he is a
weak, deranged, irrational, and hopelessly doomed soul. Very much as
Voldemort is. 

Voldemort is doomed to failure because he is promoting a flawed
irrational system, and the world simply can't be governed by that
degree of irrationality for long (Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Pol Pot,
Ide Amine, Sadam, etc...). Even if Voldemort should win this war and
take over, he is still doomed to failure. 

> Kemper contiues:
> However, Steve, I believe that Moody could've successfully gotten 
> Harry to grasp a portkey.  It goes something like this.
> 
> Harry knocked on Moody's office door.
> "Come in, Potter. Oh... and can you bring be that book over there, 
> ...edited...
> 
> -Kemper


bboyminn: 

Yes, but you are missing to crucial points, first is timing and second
is that they want to get away with it. Not just get Harry, but get
Harry and get away with it. You seem to have missed this bit of my
previous post -

"Further, I suspect that fake!Moody intends to get away with it and go
on to serve the Dark Lord. If he enchants Harry's toothbrush, odds are
he will have been seen lurking around an area where he would have no
logical reason to lurk; ie: the Commons Room and the Dorms."

In your scenario, Harry steps into Moody's office and is never seen
again. Certainly in a busy school someone would have seen or known
about this, and Moody would be stuck trying to explain that which
could not be explained. 

There is a reason why so many criminal DO get caught, and it is
because they are too stupid to consider the possibility of getting
caught. 

Again, while it is not impossible for Moody to transport Harry under
random circumstances, it is to much grander effect to have him
disappear with no known explanation at a high profile event, and with
no known person associated with that disappearance. In other word, the
'theater' aspect of taking Harry from the maze, and it's corresponding
effect on the wizard world is much greater using the method they used.
It also makes for a much better book.

Ultimately, that last statement is the most important. Fictional Evil
Overlords make the choice they ultimately make because that is what
makes for a good story. One quick look at the 'Evil Overlords
Handbook' would show them the folly of their ways, but it would make
for very dull stories.

That said, I once again refer to real world villains who are
constantly disregarding the 'Evil Overlords Handbook' very much to
their ultimate detriment.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn







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