seeds of betrayal

[zgirnius]

No: HPFGUIDX 149688


> Alla:
> 
> Okay, sorry but you lost me here a little bit. Wasn't the main 
point 
> of your previous post( sorry if I misunderstood) that Prank in the 
> Shack was brought up as red herring and Snape really would not be 
> upset at Sirius, unless he thought that Sirius is the main reason 
of 
> Potters deaths, thus Snape covers up his own guilt?

zgirnius:
Snape has (as far as I can tell at present) good reasons for hating 
Sirius, and he seems to, as far as I can tell, in GoF and OotP. The 
reason for this hatred IS the Prank and more generally the Marauders' 
treatment of Snape in school. The red herring aspect is only that I 
do not believe Snape wanted Sirius dead before he believed Sirius had 
betrayed the Potters. But in PoA we are led to believe this IS the 
reason. (And after PoA, Snape would more or less revert to his less-
than-deadly feelings about Sirius, once he became convinced Sirius 
was indeed not the Secret Keeper.)

Alla:
> I mean, for me it is unnecessary, it is clear to me from the way 
HOW 
> Snape reacts to Lupin bringing it up  that he is very angry, but I 
> gave you the quote where Snape himself brings up Prank and really 
> really upset about it. And he does not say that Sirius tried to 
kill 
> just SOME person, he says ME with the italics, so JKR really 
> stresses it out IMO that Snape cannot forget it.
> 
> And you are saying that Snape does not really bring up the Prank? 
he 
> just thinks that Sirius tries to justify himself? I am confused, 
> sorry.

zgirnius:
Other than the incident of Pettigrew and the Muggles, the only 
other 'proof' that Sirius is capable of murder that Snape has at his 
disposal is the Prank, which is a reason to bring it up when he does. 
He's trying to persuade Dumbledore not to believe (what he thinks is) 
a lame cover story.
 
Alla:
> But we probably won't agree on this one, because obviously  the way 
> Sherry interpretes Shack is very inconsistent with DD!M Snape(or at 
> least many varieties of it) :)

zgirnius:
I didn't really expect to convince Sherry (or you!) with my post ;o). 
I just wanted to bring up a way it seems to me PoA can reasonably be 
read in light of the new information about Snape hinted at in HBP.