Maligning Lupin

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 149701

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
>
>  
>  Renee:
> 
> > > > Unfortunately, Pippin's answer doesn't solve my problem, which is 
> that the *only* two members of this particular group we get acquainted 
> with would be evil if Lupin is ESE. We have no basis left within canon 
> to  assume werewolves could ever be okay and are a cause worth 
>  fighting for. 
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> Wait, wait. As we're always telling each other on this list, inadequate
> evidence does not become adequate by virtue of being the only
> evidence available.

Renee:
?? I thought I was talking about zero evidence, actually. If every
sheep anyone had ever seen in the world was black, would we have
reason to believe in the existence of white sheep?  

Pippin:
 
> I firmly believe that JKR will show us that ESE!Lupin's efforts to
be good 
> weren't  futile because  he was a werewolf. They were 
> futile because he never had the courage to make himself accountable 
> for what he'd done.
>

Renee:
It looks as if you're wielding your own theory as an argument again.
Lupin has held himself accountable for the things we've seen him do,
or rather, omit in canon. The rest is speculation. 

Also, if your ESE!Lupin's failure to be good was not caused or
influenced by his lycanthropy, then neither was his turning evil. Yet
you do relate his fall to his rejection by society, if I recall
correctly. And his rejection by society has everything to do with his
being a werewolf. I also seem to recall it had something to do with
being sent to spy on the werewolves during the first Voldemort War,
and identifying with them to such a degree that he turned against the
Wizarding World. 

But if you've changed your mind and ESE!Lupin didn't go bad because of
his furry little problem, you need to give him another motive, one
that has nothing to do with this problem. And references to the
mysterious ways in which the mind of a werewolf works don't count. 

Renee