seeds of betrayal

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 149702

> zgirnius:
> I'm not trying to argue Snape would not be pissed. He would be. The 
> question is, would he consider taking Sirius to the Dementors 
> himself, if it was just about the Prank? 

Alla:

Right, to me the answer is absolutely yes, BUT again I am not saying 
that Snape is angry with Sirius ONLY about the Prank, quite possible 
that secret keeper business also adds to it, it is just trying hard as 
I may I cannot find the evidence that Snape would NOT do that. IMO of 
course.

Zgirnius: 
> I think, though, that we are running into our usual problem. You 
want 
> to SEE Snape be sorry about the Potters, before you believe it. 
> (Quite a reasonable position, that). He is therefore a character you 
> can see casually killing someone (or worse) over a school prank, 
> until you see PROOF to the contrary. 
> 
> I no longer see him that way, because I buy Dumbledore's account of 
> him.

Alla:

Well, yes that is true of course, but woudn't you agree that the only 
reason for Snape's anger we DO see in the Shack is the Prank?

I mean, yes, maybe Snape is hiding the real reasons really well, and 
that is certainly possible, but I am trying to find it and all that I 
can see is " do you remember that he tried to kill ME?" not "do you 
remember that he betrayed Lily and James?" - quote like this would 
tell me that Snape tries to convince DD not to believe Sirius' story. 
And I don't see why JKR cannot put it forward as a clue of Snape being 
upset which we could get fully only after HBP. She does not have to 
say anything about Snape being involved in Potters death, to uncover 
plot secrets early, since we already know that Snape owed life debt to 
James and that would be quite reasonable to show that Snape is pissed 
because Potters died due to Sirius.

But Snape does not bring up Lily and James in the Hospital Wing to 
Dumbledore he brings "Tried to kill ME" and it tells me something very 
different.

JMO,

Alla, who thinks that the fact that JKR is still about to tell us more 
about the Pranks means that Prank was very far from being red herring 
in the shack, and who will not be surprised if Snape's grudges would 
be the driving forces behind his actions at the end, but who is 
prepared to be wrong of course.