LID!Snape rides again (was: High Noon for OFH!Snape)

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 18 05:46:24 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149771

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Neri" <nkafkafi at ...> wrote:
> Snip, snip...
> Neri said:
>Snape *should* have died
>when James died. My hunch is that Dumbledore had to do some very
>difficult magic there in order to save Snape's life. I even
>hypothesized that this is what Dumbledore was occupied with during 
>the 24 Hours after GH. My best guess is that Dumbledore saved Snape 
>by performing a magical transaction that transferred Snape's Debt 
from James to Harry. And if I'm right about this, then Snape ended up
>having a Life Debt to Dumbledore too, for saving his life from the
>first Debt, which would give Dumbledore even more reason to trust 
him.


Tonks:

I like this idea of Snape possibly having a life debt to DD. I have 
posted on other occasions a theory very close to this, except for 
the life debt to DD. You have a very interesting idea. I might take 
this one step further, I thing that the debt he has to DD involves 
not just his life, but his soul.  Snape's soul is probably damned 
forever for his involvement in the death of James. I am sure that DD 
did perform some ancient magic to help Snape and I agree that we 
will hear more about it in book 7.
SNIP

Neri said:
>So the real question here is what possessed him in Spinner's
>End to take the third part of the UV. Admittedly either DDM, ESE, 
>OFH or LID don't explain it. However, DDM still has a much harder 
>time with it, because a Snape who is loyal to Dumbledore and takes 
>a Vow to kill him is, er... shall we say mysterious?

Tonks:
I have an answer for that which I posted earlier in my T-Bay Ship 
post.  The short version is that I have reread chapter 2 very, very 
carefully and have come up with the following conclusion:

Narcissa is upset and when she "began to cry in earnest, gazing
beseechingly all the while at Snape", Snape must have been looking
into her eyes.  She then goes on to think about the task that Draco
has been assigned saying "it's too dangerous! This is vengeance for
Lucius's mistake, I know it!"

 I think that at this time Snape uses Legilmency to read the task in 
Narcissa's eyes.  Then Snape looks away. We are led to believe that 
he looks away because he can not bear to see her tears. I think he 
looks away to compose himself after he sees what the task is.

I suspect that LV told him this "I have a little task for Draco, 
being young he may not be up to it, and so if he can't succeed in 
doing it I will expect you to do it for him".  LV would not have 
told Snape the whole story.  Snape only realizes the position that 
he is placed in when he see the task in Narcissa's eyes.

It is a small step from this to his taking the third part of the 
vow. He is already damned anyway and he knows it. 

For the full text of these ideas I invite you to take a day trip on 
my T-bay Ship, the HMS. DESIRE.  here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/149518

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