Voldemort & the UV (LID!Snape rides again)

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No: HPFGUIDX 149823

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > Is there anything in canon to suggest that Voldemort knows about
> > the UV?

> >>Jen: 
> I'm glad you asked, I think there is. Or rather I think there's 
> enough evidence to build a case for it because there's not an     
> actual sentence in the book stating that <g>.

Betsy Hp:
Thank goodness we're not limited to what's explicitly stated in the 
book. <bg>

> >>Jen:
> 1) "The Dark Lord always knows." This is said by a Voldemort      
> fanatic of course, but it represents why Voldemort is so fearsome. 
> What he 'always knows' is where a person is weak and he's been     
> capable of using weakness against people since he was very young, 
> i.e. Billy and his rabbit, the kids in the cave. He doesn't       
> understand love having never felt it; he understands weakness and 
> hatred better than anyone else in Potterverse. 

Betsy Hp:
But here's the interesting thing, Narcissa is motivated by love in 
Spinner's End.  She's is going to great lengths to protect a son she 
loves.  Narcissa doesn't go to Snape out of hate, she goes to him 
out of love.  Honestly, I think her actions fit neatly into 
Voldemort's blind spot. (But not Dumbledore's.)

> >>Jen:
> 2) Each book hinges on a Voldemort plan that requires the use of 
> someone whom Voldemort cruelly manipulates to his own ends by 
> playing on a weakness:
> <snip of examples>
> Draco is one such person in HBP, yet he is of no real 
> consequence to LV and everyone agrees he is incapable of          
> completing the task. There needs to be someone Voldemort is       
> *really* using in HBP if not Draco.

Betsy Hp:
HBP is the first book that has Dumbledore *and* Harry taking a 
proactive role.  Voldemort is doing his "reign of terror" thing and 
setting an assassination plot in motion in Hogwarts.  I'm not sure 
there's a need for Voldemort to be actively persuing another 
diabolical plan.  In the end, all Voldemort really needs to 
accomplish now is Harry's death.  Dumbledore's death was a step 
along the way, but unless Snape's cover has been blown, Voldemort 
has a backup in place if Draco fails. Honestly, I'm not sure there's 
a need to find a victim of Voldemort's manipulation other than 
Draco. 

> >>Jen:
> 3) Snape sarcastically asks Bellatrix if she thinks he has been 
> capable of hoodwinking the greatest wizard and most accomplished 
> Legilimens the world has ever seen. Well no, he didn't fool him. 
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Ah.  This is something I have a hard time buying.  Frankly, I don't 
see Voldemort playing this deep a game.  If someone double-crosses 
him, they die.  End of story.  We know Snape has managed to hoodwink 
Voldemort because he's still alive.

> >>quick_silver:
> > <snip>
> > I guess what I'm saying it that Voldemort's plan in HBP seems to 
> > have been to kill Dumbledore and allow for the endgame to begin. 

> >>Jen: 
> I think both are happening actually, phase one was killing        
> Dumbledore and phase two will be another attempt at the prophecy   
> and Harry. With 6 & 7 forming the last book together, Voldemort's 
> last plan must be very fearsome and all encompassing, better than 
> any before and more crucially for the story, one of his plans      
> needs to succeed. 
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
I agree that Voldemort will make another try for Harry.  But I'm not 
sure Voldemort will be the one with the big plan.  I think that's 
going to be Harry.  Just as in the last couple of books (OotP and 
HBP) the man with the plan was Dumbledore.  In a sense, Voldemort is 
a threat just by being. His need to take over the WW and live 
forever is threat enough.

> >>Jen:
> <snip>
> Snape, as neither the hero nor the villain, will not be in 
> the position to outrank him [Voldemort].
> <snip>
> I think Snape chose to switch his allegiance to the good king      
> instead of the evil king, but *he's* not a king himself unless JKR 
> is going for a twist where Snape turns out to be more important    
> than Voldemort.  
> <snip>
> My focus is less Snape-centric and more Voldemort-centric, but    
> only because I think that's where JKR is headed. 

Betsy Hp:
Hmm, I agree that Voldemort is the main villain, and his destruction 
will signal the end of the game.  However, I *do* think Snape is a 
more important character than Voldemort.  In a sense, I'd almost 
label Snape as Harry's main antagonist.  There's certainly a more 
personal connection there.  We also have more of Snape's story to 
learn, while JKR has told us all about Voldemort.

I also get the sense that by understanding Snape, Harry will better 
understand himself.  So yeah, I'm thinking book 7 will be *very* 
Snape-heavy, with Voldemort as more of a supporting role.  Voldemort 
will be the device that moves the plot along and throws in fun 
little complications.  Tom's tale has been told.  I think his story 
is basically over, except for the screaming. <g>

Betsy Hp