Godric's Hollow

[darqali]

No: HPFGUIDX 149879

Brady <brahadambal at ...> wrote:
> Although I have seen posts asking and discussing about what 
> happened to or how PP came to have Voldy's wand and maybe robes 
> - I have not found much being asked about his body itself!
> 
> The AV doesn't destroy the the body to the extent that it can't 
> be seen, right? We are always left with a body behind. But in GH, 
> till date, there has not been any mention of James', Lily's or 
> Voldy's body! Why? what happened then? 
> 
> We do understand from the interviews that there was someone else 
> there. The question is not who, but what did this other person do 
> after Voldy's seventh soul-piece was separated from his body? His 
> body would still have been there, just like the diary, albeit dead. 
> So what happened to his original body? why couldn't he have 
> possessed the body itself instead of wandering in the forests of 
> Albania as something lesser than a ghost?


Darqali:
One of the major unresolved mysteries of the story is that of the 
exact sequence, participants, witnesses, events and aftermath of 
that fateful Halloween at Godric's Hollow, the night Harry became an 
orphan.

*Of course* someone else other than LV, James, Lily and Harry were 
present.  *Someone* pocketed, kept and protected LV's wand, for one 
thing, so that it was available to LV again in GoF.  [Robes are no 
issue.  PP or another servant {Crouch Jr} could have obtained robes 
for the new LV; his old robes would hardly be of any consequence.]

The easy answer to that question {who recovered LV's wand} is, of 
course, Peter Pettigrew.  He was the Secret Keeper who knew of the 
Potter's hiding place and betrayed the secret to LV, and he was the 
one who had LV's wand in the graveyard scene in GoF.

Some have said it is obvious that Peter was at Godric's Hollow, so he 
recovered LV's wand, and it was in his pocket.  When he transformed 
into a rat, it remained there, "in his fur" {noting that when a 
wizarding person transforms as an animagus, their clothing and 
accessories also transform; McGonagall's glasses become markings on 
her anamagus' cat fur; Rita Skeeter's beetle form has markings on its 
antennae like her bejeweled glasses, and so on.  When transforming 
back into human form, they are wearing clothing and their glasses, so 
those items also transform when they change into their animal 
counterpart.}  So, LV's wand stuck in Peter Pettigrew's pocket would 
be a part of Scabbers the Rat's fur, present again in its regualr 
form when he became the human Peter P, in the pocket of his robes or 
other clothing.

[We never see Peter with *his own wand*, do we?  I think that detail 
is never mentioned; Peter used *LV's* wand, not his own, in the 
graveyard scene.  Yet it seems logical that he would save his *own* 
wand as well as LV's. Or, that Peter would have obtained a new wand 
by the time of the Graveyard Scene, if his own wand had been lost in 
the past .... Further, if it were Peter who saved LV's wand {and 
possibly his own} after the events at Godric's Hollow, and if their 
hiding place was his clothing pocket {rat fur}, then LV's wand {and 
possibly his own} were present in the Shrieking Shack at the climax 
of PoA too!  Which one would have *thought* might have been a factor 
in play, yet, was not .....]

Anyway, we *don't* have the *facts* but *logic* says, Peter Pettigrew 
was the party present at Godric's Hollow who saved LV's wand, because 
he was the traitor who betrayed the location, and also the person who 
is seen with the wand prior to LV's resurrection in his new body.  If 
there is another party, who rescued the wand and "held" it for LV, we 
have no clue as to their identity.

As to the bodies:  Well, the house was destroyed by the rebounded 
curse [though Harry was not harmed].  LV himself was not killed 
{because of the existance of his Horcruxes}, but his *body* was 
destroyed {killed}.  Why not "possess" that body?  Logically, it 
likely was  blown to bits, for one thing.  For another, it was not a 
*living* body, even if whole.  Can a soul-bit, which is capable of 
possession of a living body, possess a *dead* body {making it in our 
terms a "zombie"}  or in the HP universe, an Inferius?  Doubtful.

Of course there remain other unanswered questions about Godric's 
Hollow, too.  We know Sirius set out to check on things when he 
couldn't contact Peter Pettigrew - and that he met up with Hagrid, 
for Sirius lent Hagrid his flying motorbike to take Harry to the 
Dursleys'. So at some point, Sirius was on the scene, but not in time 
to save the Potters, and it was Hagrid who got Harry out of the 
rubble. DD sent Hagrid to collect Harry, but when and how did DD 
learn of the events at Godric's Hollow which made Harry an orphan in 
need of collecting?  Not from Sirius, because DD didn't know of the 
switch to PP as the Secret Keeper, and he believed Sirius was the 
traitor to the degree he didn't try to get Sirius out of Azkaban when 
he was sent there {without trial} for a crime he didn't commit.

We can presume these mysteries will be dealt with early on in Book 7, 
since Harry has announced he is going to Godric's Hollow as his first 
action in persuit of LV's destruction  at the close of HBP.  We know 
his parent's graves are there, so we also know that there was 
something to bury, unlike the aftermath of Sirius death.  Since Harry 
has had some contact with his dead parents before and had help from 
them {graveyard scene in GoF}, might they manage to make contact 
again at their grave site, and give Harry some form of aid 
{information} there too?

But as for LV "possessing" his own dead body, that is a non-issue.  
He says "possession" is one power remaining to him in 'less than 
ghost' form.  But the small animals he possessed {especially snakes} 
didn't live long.  Clearly, when they died he either was a bodiless 
spirit form again, or he took another living creature to possess.  If 
he could have used a *dead* body, why would it matter?  He couldn't.  
Not even his own dead body, were it whole and not a pile of hamburger.

Elf Note to Darquali:  could you contact the elves at 
HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com?  Thanks!