ah the mysteries

allies426 AllieS426 at aol.com
Fri Mar 24 00:53:04 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149952

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Olivier Fouquet 
<olivier.fouquet at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Allie,
> I don't believe that Arthur is ESE, of course he isn't. I have 
been  
> using him to show that one could build a powerful case for ESE!
Anyone  
> by selecting odd remarks or events, declaring them "mysteries" or  
> "hints". 
> Now, on to the anvil-sized hint about the Imperius curse, it all 
goes  
> back to GoF. Barty Crouch, posing as Moody, has this incredible  
> conversation with Ron.
> 
> "my dad told me about one.. . . Is it called the Imperius
> Curse, or something?"
> "Ah, yes," said Moody appreciatively. "Your father would know 
that  
> one [...]"
> 
> Now you have a hardcore DE that is speaking "appreciatively" of  
> Arthur's knowledge of the Imperius. Once you have spotted this  
> instance, you can of course find other hints in the other books,  
> going back to book one, that Arthur does indeed know a lot about 
the  
> Imperius. Then, once you're there, you notice that according to 
canon  
> Sturgis was imperioed the very day when Arthur waited outside 
Harry's  
> hearing room. How convenient that he could spend some times here 
to  
> practise the curse that have gained him the appreciation of Barty  
> Crouch Jr. And here you have started ESE!Arthur.
> 

Allie:

Isn't it great how we never take anything at face value anymore?  I 
took Fake!Moody's statement to mean:  the Imperius Curse gave the 
Ministry a lot of trouble in VW1, Arthur worked for the Ministry, 
therefore Arthur would know that curse.  Especially since his work 
deals with Muggle-baiting, and I'd bet that a lot of the Death 
Eaters were claiming to be under Imperius after they were caught 
doing undesirable things to Muggles. 

Of course, this was before I looked more deeply into the villainous 
character of Arthur Weasley.  :)

Another statement I take at face value that has also been subjected 
to endless debate is Professor Trelawney's reading of her Tarot 
cards.  She sees a troubled young man who dislikes the questioner.  
I laughed at what I thought was JKR making a little joke - Harry is 
behind the statue, he dislikes Trelawney.  But speculation over the 
identity of this mysterious man ensued on the HPforGrownups list...








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