ah, the mysteries
Olivier Fouquet
olivier.fouquet at polytechnique.org
Fri Mar 24 02:14:13 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 149955
Pippin:
>Not quite full-fledged...you've neglected to give Arthur a motive
>for all this. I'm sure you've thought of one, though <g>
Of course I have. Arthur is a pureblood who made a nice pureblood
marriage and who stills live in poverty. There are references in each
and every book that this is making his family bitter. If the Ministry
couldn't recognize his talents, maybe Voldemort would. This motive is
utterly improbable, but it is very close to the one you attribute to
Lupin. And there are many more references to the Weasley family being
bitter about their poverty than to Lupin being bitter about being a
werewolf. That said, a OSE!Lupin (only slightly evil) seems to me
more credible. Like a Lupin who would join Voldemort after HBP
because he thinks all his lost and he felt some sympathy for his
"equals".
Arley
>I find one big hole in the theory of ESE!Arthur. He almost got
killed when
>poisoned by Nagini. Didn't he?
No, no, no. It is not a hole, it is on the contrary the strongest
hint that Arthur is in league with Voldemort. Let us go back to the
text. Nagini is slithering on the floor of the DoM; Arthur wakes up;
Nagini strikes thrice "deeply into the man's flesh" and with enough
strength to break Arthur's ribs. Arthur yells then fall silent
against the wall. Harry wakes up and raises the alarm. He is panicked
because Arthur is bleeding like mad (many references to it in the
text). Now several minutes lapse between Harry waking up and
Dumbledore sending Everard and Dylis (Harry has to convinced Ron,
they have to walked with McGonagall to DD's office, DD interviews
Harry
). During these long minutes, Nagini could have given a few
more bites, let us say to Arthur's neck and Arthur was finished. Dead.
What would have happened next? Well, it would have been devastating
to Harry and the Weasleys but at least Harry would have had a
powerful motive for learning Occlumency. I mean, who wants to kill
his friends every night?
What happened in canon? Well, somehow Nagini left Arthur alive, only
just barely. Conclusion? Harry never associated his visions with
something bad, on the contrary he thought they were useful, and so
did other members of the Order. To quote Harry arguing with Snape:"I
saw that snake attack Mr Weasley and if I hadn't, Professor
Dumbledore wouldn't have been able to save him, would he? Sir?"
And what happened when Harry finally saw Sirius in the DoM. Well,
first he believed it. Second, he had a very hard time convincing Ron
and Hermione, and for good reasons, seeing as this was totally
improbable. Then, Harry reminds Ron that when he saw his father being
attacked, that wasn't a dream and Ron concedes that "He's got a
point". From that moment on, Ron helps Harry convince Hermione,
providing rationales, arguing against her until she finally gives in.
Read the scene again and you will see that Ron's help was crucial. We
all know to what that lead to.
So let us recap. Two things were absolutely necessary for Voldemort's
plan. That Harry did not learn Occlumency and that he was convinced
that his visions were real and useful. Why didn't Harry learn
Occlumency? Because, according to himself "I don't like [my visions]
much but [they have] been useful. I saw that snake attack Mr Weasley
and if I hadn't, Professor Dumbledore wouldn't have been able to save
him." And again, on the crucial moment, JKR again repeats this
rationale.
I conclude that the attack was staged, that Nagini was ordered to
inflict very serious damage but to stop just before death. And all
that possible thanks to whom?
Best regards,
Olivier
PS: I reiterate that I don't believe in this theory, in my opinion,
Arthur had to stay alive (even if it was extremely improbable) not
because everything was staged but because JKR needed the plot point
that Harry liked his visions. Just as she needed the plot point that
Harry save Pettigrew, so that she had to make Lupin and Sirius
killers, and Hermione and Ron passive witnesses.
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