But DID James listen? (was LID!Snape rides again )

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> Alla:
> > 
> > But of course, since I believe in Snape darker nature, I will go 
> > further and speculate that Snape indeed signed up to join Voldie 
> and 
> > company when he was still in school and that is where many 
> conflicts 
> > betweem him and James indeed grew. 
> 
> Ceridwen:
> I think part of Snape's fascination for people who both like and 
> dislike him, is his darkness.  So I can completely agree with you 
on 
> believing in his darker nature.  I'm not sure that he joined LV 
> during school, but we know from Sirius that he hung out with a 
crowd 
> who almost all later became DEs.  Maybe they had a DE Jr club, 
like 
> Harry's DA?  Just kidding, but they may have had the darker 
aspects 
> of magic in common.  I don't know where his crowd was during the 
> Pensieve scene - in class?  Already graduated?  Certainly not in 
5th 
> year!

Alla:

Hehe. You know, it is always nice to know that we have something to 
agree upon about Snape, even if we diverge in the end results of his 
actions so to speak.

You probably know that I am fond of speculation that since 
Slytherin's gang all graduated by that time ( they are older than 
Snape, I think it is pretty much canon now when Lucius and Bella's 
ages are specified, no?), Snape was left all alone to deal with 
Marauders.

Do I think that Slytherin gang and Marauders, NOT Snape and 
Marauders initially had a violent history? Yep, I absolutely do. 
Speculation? Sure it is, but I think it is significant that Sirius 
did not see Bella since he was sixteen ( sure he does not have fond 
memories of majority of his family, but he specifically says that 
about Bella) It tells me that he and Bella were not on friendly 
terms while in school. IMO of course. And of course we have 
that "Malfoy's lapdog". I am dying to know whether this refers to 
Snape school years and what did Sirius mean.

But of course take it for what it worth, since I am obviously 
biased. :) ( Not that I am the only one of course :-)).


 
> Ceridwen:
> I thought that Draco was doing a sort of hazing - get through this 
> and you'll be a Proud Member Of Our Team. <SNIP>n't 
> give a theory of what Draco showed Burke if it wasn't the Dark 
Mark, 
> but I don't see LV inducting a schoolboy.  Also, his plan was for 
> Draco to die, not join the team, as a punishment for Lucius.  Why 
> bother inducting him if a simple hazing will accomplish the 
purpose?  

Alla:

Oh, I don't know, I don't know. We are just speculating here, but 
you don't see Voldemort indicting schoolboy why? I mean, I am not 
saying I am right and maybe Draco was not indicted, but what would 
stop Voldemort from indicting schoolboys in general? He would think 
they are too young to understand and appreciate him fully? :-) 


Ceridwen:
> I do, though, think that LV had his eye on certain schoolchildren 
as 
> they were growing up, so he could send someone to approach them 
about 
> joining once they were out of Hogwarts and away from Dumbledore's 
> eye.  And it's possible that the gang Snape hung out with was 
marked, 
> maybe by older graduated students who were then full-fledged DEs.  
> Both sides have to recruit, and Hogwarts students are ripe for the 
> picking.

Alla:

YES, exactly "ripe for picking" is a good way to phrase it. Don't 
you think that Voldemort would have done as much as he can to have 
his eyes and ears in Hogwarts as early as possible? I'd say Lucius 
and Bella count as pretty good candidates to me to be indicted say 
at sixteen and then pass the torch to Snape. :-)

But again, of course we have no indication one way or another, I 
just thought that Draco MAYBE having a mark would be a good clue as 
to when Marauders generation could have started being a target for 
recruiting, that's all.

 
JMO,

Alla