The Huge overreactions from a five minute time span
juli17 at aol.com
juli17 at aol.com
Tue Mar 28 00:16:55 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 150139
Joe wrote:
People should be able to feel and say whatever they like. That said, the
many attempts to make James Potter out to be some sort of horrible person, which
often use this one scene as 'evidence,' are laughable. Strangely I have
gotten a few 'Off list' emails agreeing with me and warning me that the 'Save
Snape brigade is going to have a fit."
Were Sirius and James both guilty of a lot of pranks? Absolutely. Did they
get punished? Well we see Harry having to go through all the dentenion forms,
including many of James and Sirius. The truth is that they were mostly normal
boys who often tease, prank and pick on each other. They were not nasty and
if Sirius is nasty to Snape after they left, well frankly I think it is
totally understandable. Snape is nasty to everyone.
Julie:
The thing is, it's not an either/or situation. One person doesn't have to be
good while the other is bad. Fact is, it's very probable Snape was a nasty
little git during his school years at Hogwarts, doing his fair share of hexing
those who annoyed him. But we also now know factually that James was an
arrogant prick at least some of the time during his years at Hogwarts. Lily knew
it too, and said as much. Lots of teenage boys do act like this, and what
separates them once they're adults is that some of them recognize their behavior
is adolescent and wrong, and decide to grow up, while others don't. So James
at some point looked at himself in a mirror and said "Geez, sometimes I'm
really an arrogant prick. I think it's time I grow out of that." (And good
thing too, as Lily wouldn't have had him otherwise.) Snape, OTOH, never got
around to that kind of self-examination, and to this day he's still nursing his
wounds and spreading his venom instead of letting go and growing up.
Joe:
If I remember right Harry, who has zero experience in these matters,
speculated that his Dad might have tricked his Mom into going out with him. No, not
a hysterical little boy but certainly a teenager who tends to over react.
I think we can safely safe that Lily Potter didn't feel she was being
coerced or do you think she was so stupid as to marry someone who tried to do that
to her?
Julie:
Of course we can safely say that Lily wasn't coerced. So can Harry after his
initial reaction. But initial reactions are often fraught with strong
emotion. Harry recognized that his father wasn't a paragon after all but a mere
human being with warts and all, which was really the point JKR was trying to
make (IMO). James isn't GOOD and Snape isn't BAD (especially if he turns out to
be DDM), just as very few people in the real world are GOOD or BAD but a mix
of both positive and negative traits and tendencies. But James, especially as
he got older, made good choices, while Snape made some pretty disastrous, and
that's what really separates the two now.
Julie
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