The Huge overreactions from a five minute time span.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 28 01:24:31 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150149

> kchuplis:
> 
> I keep coming back to this too. How much of this is because it is 
how  
> SNAPE saw it. In the other pensieve memories we have seen, the  
> subjects have not had necessarily any kind of bias or at least 
not  
> anything like what we know of Snape. We have no idea how much 
bias  
> colors a pensieve memory.  And seeing anything in isolation can 
be  
> deceiving. I really can't see everyone calling James a great guy 
(and  
> everyone HAS except Snape) if he was really as big of a git all 
the  
> time as the pensieve scene showed. If one were to describe many 
of  
> Harry's adventures, he would or could sound like an arrogant show 
off  
> and yet we know that is never in his intentions. Perspective  
> perspective perspective.
>


Alla:

I often bring the following thing, Karen when discussing the 
Pensieve scene, etc. Wonderful Vmonte ( who unfortunately does not 
post here anymore, it seems) brought it up for the first time.

Let's imagine dear Draco putting in the Pensieve his memory of the 
train incident from GoF, moreover let's imagine that somebody, 
anybody gets to view this memory NOT from the beginning, but from 
the moment when Trio and others hex him.

Hmmmm, I wonder whether the person who will watch this memory would 
consider Draco to be the victim here?

I know I would have, BUT just think how much difference it makes if 
we were to see this memory from the beginning, when Draco shows up 
uninvited and starts mocking Cedric death and threatening Ron and 
Hermione's lives.

So, yes, perspective indeed, I agree with you.


 > Nikkalmati:
>  
> I am a little puzzled.  What have your been reading? I have been 
> following this list since last November and I don't think this 
topic 
> has been overdone.  In fact, compared to some topics which have 
been 
> beaten to death <g>, it has hardly been mentioned at all. 

Alla:

Oh, please believe me, when I say it - we used to do many rounds on 
this topic in not so distant past :) NOT that I am complaining at 
all.

Nikkalmati:
 I also 
> don't recall seeing a post before yours which called 
James "horrible" 
> or anything like it.  I do have some issues with Harry's Dad, and 
as 
> I said, I hope we see more good of him in the next book. Harry, 
after 
> all, was pretty upset himself by the scene.


Alla:

Would you like some links on this? Just tell me off list and I will 
send them to you. :) 

Personally I had seen enough good of James before Pensieve scene and 
think that Harry just needs to come to terms with his dad being a 
flawed human being, but overall rather decent human being IMO of 
course, after all as far as I am aware James did not KILL anybody.

I was VERY pleased that James ceased being a saint after OOP. I love 
his character so much more now, since to me the GOOD he had done is 
much more than the BAD.







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