[HPforGrownups] Re: But DID James listen? (was LID!Snape rides again )

[P J]

No: HPFGUIDX 150188


Carol:

>Naturally, as you say, Black would not have made the suggestion nor JP
>accepted it if either suspected that Pettigrew was the spy, but that's
>not what I'm saying. As I interpret the quoted phrase from your
>earlierpost, you're saying that the DEs would have known about the
>Fidelius Charm, or at least suspected its existence, but I don't think
>that's the case.

>The DEs didn't know about the Prophecy, so in their view, the Potters
>would have no more reason to hide than any other Order members, who
>were being "picked off one at a time." Obviously, those who were
>murdered on LV's orders had not been protected by Fidelius Charms. Why
>not, if Fidelius Charms were a standard method of protection? And if
>Fidelius Charms were routinefor people going into hiding, why did it
>take DD so long to suggest one and why didn't the Potters think of it
>themselves?

PJ:

I see the Fidelius Charm sort of like a magical version of our Witness 
Protection Program.  Not everyone who testifies in court needs it, but for 
those who do make use of it, it's as a last resort.

That said, while I don't for a minute believe the DE's had information on 
the prophesy at that time (but they about a year before the battle at the 
MoM I think) Voldemort did and his spy had already informed him that the 
Potters were ready to disappear.  His first thought once the Potters became 
non existent would be the same as the assumption by the Mob.... 
Fidelius/WPP.  Know what I mean?  Then he can make use of Peter who is 
conveniently both spy and SK...

Since that connection is so suspiciously fortuitous for Voldemort, do you 
think maybe Sirius could have been bewitched into suggesting Peter for the 
SK job?


Carol:

>Because the Charm was only in effect for a week and because the
>DEsdidn'tknowabout the Prophecy, I doubt very much thatthe existence
>of  a Secret Keeper was common knowledge among the Death Eaters, and,
>that being the case, "DE common knowledge" couldn't be the reason for
>the switch.

PJ:
Ok, I think I understand what happened now.  I made a comment about James 
knowing Snape had DE sympathies and you thought I meant the DE's knew about 
the prophesy.  No, I don't believe Snape or Voldemort shared that 
information with anyone.  Once he began planning how to hear this prophesy 
himself I think he told the DE's that showed up at the MoM that night, so... 
maybe a year before the battle at the MoM?

I mistakenly snipped a question you asked on whether there's canon for 
Sirius having been the actual sk for awhile before giving the job to Peter.  
Not that I know of... I read it as James had wanted Sirius to do it but that 
Sirius had thought Peter a better candidate.

PJ