Grey Lady (Lady Jane Grey)/Dudley. Hermione & Ravenclaw/Marietta Edgecomb

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I'm going to throw up a theory and see if anybody likes it. This has to do with the  Grey  Lady ghost which belongs to the House of Ravenclaw and also Hermione, Dudley and the Dursley's; also some Marietta Edgecomb.

Some of this may have been posted before, I'm sort of new to the list and could not find many references to the Grey Lady, or the search function was not cooperating on the home page for this list.  Plus somebody needs to talk about anything other then Snape or Lupin. 

1) First it is pretty obvious to me that The Grey Lady ghost of Ravenclaw seems to have been intentionally ignored thought the first 6 books by JKR, mentioned just enough that readers are dimly aware of her.  Also I'm suspicious that so much was made of it in the first movie, much more then in the book. I'm always suspicious of plot points or char. that JKR seems to just string along. 

2) If you research the Grey Lady the description of of the character. as JKR told the actress Nina Young playing her in the SS/f (as posted on the Lexicon): "the Grey Lady is "a highly intellectual young lady" and a woman with strong scholarly or literary interests. "She never found true love as she never found a man up to her standards." Here is the link: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/ghosts.html#hw closely matches the description of Lady Jane Grey as described at wikipedia and other sources. Lady Jane Grey was very intelligent and always has a book with her, which I believe the Grey Lady is portrayed in the movie as having. Here is the link from Wikipedia on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Jane_Grey

As well as a couple of others:   http://www.ladyjanegrey.org/                                              http://englishhistory.net/tudor/relative/janegrey.html#Biography.

One reason given for Lady Jane Grey not being the Grey Lady is that the Grey Lady is not a member of the Headless Haunt, since she executed by beheading, but do we know this for sure number one, and two: Might it be optional for a ghost to join the headless haunt? Might they cohose to do otherwise?  The Grey Lady doesn't seem the hunting type to me or even really the haunting type <G>. 

3)  Lady Jane Grey was forced to marry a: Guilford Dudley. The Dudley of the books seems to  be a combination of the extreme traits of  both Lord Dudleys, Guilford and his father. Also Hermione's parents seem to have some similar aspects to Lady Jane Grey's parents, although apparently less cruel, but Lady Jane Grey was also estranged from them.   

4) Hermione's middle name is said by JKR to be Jane so you find in her name the following: HERmione  JANE GRAnger  or:  Her Jane GraY

5) Hermione closely resembles some of the physical descriptions of Lady Jane Grey, though I think  Ginny is closer.  

6) Lady Jane Grey was born in October though the date is not known. It would be possible for JKR to use her license to make it October 31st. Which as we know is a significant date in HP.  

7) the whole Lady Jane Grey drama was infused with religion and in one interview JKR does say he books will turn out to be surprisingly Christian when they are done. 

8) There must be some reason why at the close of HBP there is no indication  that the curse  Hermione placed on Marietta has been lifted.  Marietta Edgecomb's initials are M.E.  These initials could stand for Mary and Elizabeth, the two rivials  with Jane for the throne. Actually there were two Marys. Also the beginning of Marietta's name is similar to Mary.  

9) In OOP in the battle in the DOM Hermione is hit by Dolohov by a  sort of frill, misty purple curse which almost kills her. This could be foreshadowing of  Hermione's  "Royal Death".  

10) Lady Jane Grey was imprisioned in the Tower of London. The tower of London is infested with Ravens. It is said that if the Ravens leave England will fall. Might something  be at the Tower of  London?  Yes the symbol of Ravenclaw is an  Eagle, not  a Raven. But, still is something guarded by Ravenclaws at the tower?  I think this analogy would be too tempting for JKR to pass up. 

11) Finally, JKR uses a lot of the Tudor names around this drama for char. there is a Lord Neville for instance and a Browne. Many others. And I remember reading somewhere in my studies that one of the principle people in the real life drama owned a "SNAPE MANOR" .  Reading about the Tudors seems very profitable in understanding the symbology in HP. 

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Two possible theories for book 7 based on all this: 

1) Hermione and Marietta will end up in some sort of struggle over becoming the heir of Ravenclaw and/or the Ravenclaw Horcrux. Hermione will initially win, but Marietta will prevail which will  cause the death of Hermione (Hermione is Jane Grey, so she must die and Marietta is Queen Mary I).
 
This will also somehow have to do with the Dursleys and/or Draco as a sub  Dudley. 

2) Alternatively the trio and Marietta (Luna/Cho also) may have to time travel to Tudor England, where it will turn out the Lady Jane Grey not only is the Ravenclaw ghost but was a powerful witch who tried to decline the throne not only due to religious reason but also because she did not want to add wizard blood to the royal line.  In order to find the Ravenclaw Horcux and or become Ravenclaw heir they will have to do something there and or help Lady Jane Grey.

In both of these, if there is a Ravenclaw Horcrux, it is prob a tiara of Ravenclaw, either from the room of requirments or the tiara Molly was going to get from her Aunt for Fleur and Bill's wedding in HBP. The Grey Lady's ghost will somehow be involved in revealing this all. 

Sorry this is long. Wanted to cover all my points. What do you think?

D.A Jones