Another Snape thread
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Sat May 6 11:42:50 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 151915
Carol [from a fantastic post, which zgirnius & SSSusan snip down to
the final question]:
> > Ideas, anyone? What do you think Snape will be up to, mostly off
> > page, in Book 7? Surely all those revelations about him in HBP
> > don't lead to a dead end on the tower.
zgirnius:
> First, I think your suggestion of 'faking' crimes could be an
> option, but it owuld be hard to do if Snape were part of (in
> command of) a group. An alternative way out might be to leak the
> information about the raid in advance to the Order.
SSSusan:
I agree that I don't think Snape will be faking crimes -- seems
rather hard to pull off and hard to "take credit for" to Order
members. I like the idea of an advance tip-off of a raid or
attack. Truthfully, I think such an action would mean Voldy *would*
FINALLY be on to him, though, so I think it would have to be
somewhere pretty far into the book/close to the conclusion -- or,
alternatively, close to a revelation to the Order that Snape **is**
still DDM.
zgirnius:
> I can see ways around the problem of being believed. First, I have
> seen a suggestion somewhere online (maybe even here!) that Snape's
> Patronus might change to a Phoenix. Since people in the Order
> would know thay was Dumbledore's Patronus, they might believe a
> message such a Patronus brought. Alternatively, where did Fawkes
> go? I bet oif he brought a message, it would be taken seriously...
SSSusan:
Yep, I'd seen the suggestion of a phoenix patronus, too, but hadn't
thought of Fawkes himself carrying a message. I think the latter
would be *much* more effective than the former, which might just
seem like a trick (and a horribly disrespectful one!) to Order
members. I think one of these options, though, *following* what
zgirnius first suggested -- a tip-off which protects the Order from
attack -- might be enough for Snape to get a listen, at least from
some Order members.
zgirnius:
> Personally I doubt the events of the Tower were part of a worked
> out plan. But if they were, Dumbledore would have seen the problem
> just as you and I do. He would have shared this part of the plan
> with someone, and so Snape would have a secret contact within the
> Order. (If this scenario holds, I vote for Aberforth as the
> contact).
SSSusan:
Another excellent possibility. Aberforth will certainly (he will,
right??) have a role in Book 7, and I think most of us are expecting
it to pertain somehow to information about Albus.
zgirnius:
> I can also see one duty Voldemort might assign Snape instead of
> killing Muggles (or whoever). I think it is possible he might be
> getting antsy about his Horcruxes....
> He might have Snape do something to protect one of the other
> Horcruxes.
SSSusan:
zgirnius, you're on a roll -- so many great ideas!
If Snape-as-horcrux-protector were to happen, it would provide yet
another possibility for Snape to assist Harry & the Order and thus,
eventually, to prove his loyalty to DDM. I seriously doubt Harry
would be very inclined to believe anything Snape simply *says* (in
person or via a messenger), but combine it with some significant
*action* that 1) assists the Order, and 2) clearly risks blowing
Snape's cover to Voldy, and I can see many Order members being
convinced. Might take Harry a tad longer. ;-)
zgirnius:
> I don't have any ideas about his healing abilities. But I wonder
> about his alternative way to deal with Dementors. Is this
> something Voldemort knows about/could use? Or will it come up in
> some other way?
SSSusan:
Both are interesting possibilities. I can't quite imagine JKR
tossing in that un-explained bit about Harry & Snape disagreeing on
the best way to handle Dementors if it's not going to resurface, but
I've no idea how. Another healing episode from Snape? It was
certainly a *fascinating* scene when he healed Draco in HBP, but I'm
not convinced it'll happen again. If it does, I'm inclined to think
it'll involve a Weasley, Hermione, Neville or Harry himself.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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