SHIP Harry/Ginny (was:CHPDISC: HBP14, Felix Felicis)

quigonginger quigonginger at yahoo.com
Sun May 7 08:11:11 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 151948

> Betsy Hp:
> See I *did* see Ginny as a bit more warm and fuzzy.  Her 
> interactions with Harry in OotP seemed to point in that direction, 
> her ability to calm and even soothe him when no else could.  And we 
> see more of that in HBP, like at the end where only Ginny is able 
to 
> lead Harry away from Dumbledore's corpse.
> 
> And even with Ron, Ginny had been more warm and fuzzy before.  Her 
> care of Ron when he totally humiliated himself in GoF by asking 
> Fluer to the Yule Ball struck me as warm.  But now, when Ron is 
> obviously suffering, she attacks him in a manner that not only 
> doesn't help, but actually makes his playing worse.  It's 
> contradictory, IMO.  And speaks to either bad writing on JKR's 
part, 
> or something going on with Ginny that will clear itself up in book 
7.
> 
> However, Ginny is *consistently* angry at this point.  She's angry 
> and cruel to Ron during practice.  She's angry and cruel to Ron in 
> the corridor.  And then she's angry and cruel towards Zacharias at 
> the Quidditch match. As Angie pointed out in the part I snipped, 
she 
> was angry and cruel towards Zacharias on the train to Hogwarts.  
> Heck, she was even angry and cruel towards Fluer back at the Burrow 
> (with a side of angry and cruel to Ron at the same time).  Which 
> points away from JKR being a bad writer and towards something being 
> up with Ginny.

Ginger:

I may have connected some dots here.  Tell me what you think.

At the beginning of the book, we are told the the dementors are 
breeding.  At the beginning of this very chapter, (Potioncat pointed 
out) the mist was very strong.  If we go back to PoA, the three who 
were most effected by the dementors were Harry, Neville and Ginny. 

Harry was effected because of the memory of his parents' murders.  He 
has dealt with that by learning the patronus, and by his realization 
that he must continue to fight LV so that others will not suffer as 
they did -or as he has.  Neville is effected because of his parents' 
suffering.  He has now faced Bella and stood his ground.  He has 
grown and matured and his bravery has been tested and proven even to 
his Gran (see the newspaper clipping in HBP ch. 3).

The dementors effect Ginny due to her posession by the diary.  (I 
admit that this is only a conclusion that I have drawn, but I think 
it is a likely one.)  She has not at this point had the opportunity 
to face that personal demon.  Harry has faced LV, Neville has faced 
Bella, but Ginny will never really get to face 16-yr-old Tom Riddle.  
The nearest she can come will be facing LV, but she is still being 
told she's too young.  I think she is now the person most effected by 
dementors because she has had no catharsis (sp?) and has not been 
able to work out those feelings.

Ginny has a fiery temper.  As Steven1965aaa pointed out, she's at the 
same age as CAPSLOCK!Harry.  I also liked Pat's PMS point :)  She's 
outgrown the shy little girl she once was.

You are right that she does have the caring side (comforting Ron 
before the YB etc).  How often does she really *really* get mad at 
Harry?  Twice that I recall.  Once in OoP ch. 23 where she scolds him 
for not remembering that she was once posessed by LV and could ask 
her how it feels; and once in HBP ch. 9 when she is "alarmed and 
angry" at Harry because she has overheard that he is taking 
instructions from a book that someone has written in.  Harry assures 
her that it's just a text that someone has written in the margins, 
but she is thinking of the Diary.

So both times, her anger is piqued by referrences to her posession.  
The Horcrux issue is vital to HBP and will be vital to the 
Destruction of LV.  DD becomes aware that LV is using this means of 
immortality when Harry gives him the Diary.  Perhaps JKR is 
positioning Ginny to have some serious issues the manifest themselves 
first in anger, and then in @$$-kicking power when she finally gets a 
chance to come face to face with the cause of her mental boggart.

In summary:  Ginny is a teenage, female, fiery red-head (says Ginger) 
who has been coddled and is trying to break free from her *baby* role 
in the family.  She has issues to deal with from her first year that 
she needs to confront.  She is at an age where she is becoming her 
own person in very trying and scary times.  Her world is changing- 
war, hormones, big brother introducing an outsider to the family, 
posession by an evil entity- the usual things that get kids riled up 
at that age.

Maybe this is foreshadowing that her experiences with Diary!Tom will 
be used in the future.  DD did say that he could find very few people 
from whom to extract memories of Tom, before or after his 
EvilLordship phase, and DD thought it was important that they find 
out all they could about him in his past as he is a creature of 
habit.  Ginny is probably sitting on a piece of info that she has no 
idea is important.  The diary was written in his 5th year, but he 
wasn't in the Horcrux manufacturing business at that point, so Diary!
Tom wouldn't be very guarded about letting things slip that LV would 
later use in hiding a Horcrux; and LV would have no way of letting 
Diary!Tom know to keep his mouth shut.

Not sure how much of that last part is related to Ginny's anger.  
Just that one thought flowed into the other.  

For what it's worth.
Ginger, no longer a red-head, but still fiery.








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