Voldemort's offer/Snape Victorious

[juli17 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 151969


Catlady  wrote:
When Snape learned that LV was planning to kill all  three Potters,
including Lily, he begged LV to spare Lily's life. In order  to make
such a plea without seeming totally soft-hearted. he asked for LV  to
give Lily to him as a gift. LV, pleased with Snape for something  else,
promised that he would do so if Lily didn't interfere with him  killing
her baby. 

Snape, knowing that Lily would never consent to  such thing, decided to
save her life by foiling LV's entire attack by  warning Dumbledore
about it. At that time, Dumbledore talked Snape into  serving as his
spy; also, Dumbledore warned the Potters and the Longbottoms  that LV
was after them, so they went into hiding.
 
Julie:
This is a workable theory, but I personally don't like it. I think Snape 
wanted to save all three of the Potters. Just because he hated James
doesn't mean he wanted him dead (and there is that pesky life debt
he owed James). I'd also hate to think Snape would be so willing an 
accomplice in the murder of an innocent baby. Also, Dumbledore's
repeated admonitions of complete trust in Snape indicate to me  that
he believed Snape to be at heart a good man (unwilling to act beyond
certain moral limits, whether we agree with where Snape draws those
limits or not). I don't think he would have trusted Snape so  completely
if Snape changed sides simply out of a desire for revenge, to pay the
life debt, to save his own hide, etc. Certainly he'd still be willing  to
use Snape, but *trust* him implicitly...no.
 
Of course, Snape could have fooled Dumbledore. But I don't think so.
(Or I don't want to think so!) 
 

Carol wrote:
<< As for other chapter titles that might be  similarly misleading, 
how about "Snape Victorious," in which Snape seems to  be achieving a
long-cherished ambition but is in fact being publicly  acknowledged as
the latest appointee to a jinxed, or perhaps cursed, position  that
ultimately leads to disaster for him and for Hogwarts?  >>

Catlady wrote:
I thought the title 'Snape Victorious' referred to Snape  getting 
to enjoy a few minutes of verbally beating up on Harry  without
interference. Thus he was victorious over 'Tonks' who wanted  to
protect Harry.
 
Julie:
That doesn't make much sense to me, because Snape is 
repeatedly victorious in harassing Harry, and most of the time 
he doesn't encounter any interference. And while we don't know 
if Snape really had a long-cherished ambition to be the DADA 
teacher, it was certainly something others believed, particularly
Harry. And Harry is our main protagonist, the eyes through which
we see almost everything. So "Snape Victorious" to me indicates
Harry's perception that Snape has achieved the victory he has so
long desired, that of teaching DADA. But perception isn't always
accurate, is it? ;-)
 
Julie
 
 


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