Sportsmanship / Second Task Points
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Mon May 8 22:03:35 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 152006
> >>Pippin:
> <snip>
> Did the judges make it about winning by awarding Harry points
> for moral fiber? Only if you think it's about who gets the most
> points. :)
Betsy Hp:
That's my entire point, Pippin. By *awarding points* for "moral
fiber" the judges make Harry's gesture about *getting points*. They
make it about winning. Which is *not* what sportsmanship is all about.
HOWEVER!!
In this post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/152004
Ginger goes to canon, and causes a very loud "d'oh" to echo through my
house.
> >>Ginger:
> <snip>
> Cedric: 47 points. 1st to return, although 1 minute outside the
> time limit. Used bubble-head charm as well.
> <snip>
> Harry: 45 points. Used gillyweed "to great effect". Was the last to
> return. Showed moral fibre by saving Gabriel.
> <snip of point analysis>
> It seems to me that Harry is getting bad press for being late, when,
> in fact, they were all late, if they arrived at all.
> I don't think in something this subjective, 6-10 points for moral
> fibre is that out of line. Had he not shown it, he would have
> arrived before the time was up. They had no negative comments about
> any other part of his performance, so he would probably have gotten
> the full 50. In other words, moral fibre cost him 5 points, but not
> the full 11-16 that being late would have cost him had he not had a
> good reason for being late.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
So, erm... yeah, turns out *Cedric* actually won this particular
challenge. (Which would explain his lack of protest anyway. <g>)
I agree with Ginger's analysis that Harry gained more points for his
use of gillyweed and his returning with a hostage (something Fluer
lost points for) than for his "moral fiber". Which does make me feel
better, but also takes a lot of the wind out of the sails of my
argument.
As the creator of this particular thread I do apologize for not
checking canon myself. Sorry. :(
Betsy Hp (feeling a bit sheepish, but still standing firm that good
sportsmanship should have nothing to do with winning or losing and
moral fiber should be its own reward)
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