Sportsmanship / Second Task Points

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Mon May 8 22:03:35 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 152006

> >>Pippin:
> <snip> 
> Did the judges make it about winning by awarding Harry points
> for moral fiber? Only if you think it's about who gets the most
> points. :)

Betsy Hp:
That's my entire point, Pippin.  By *awarding points* for "moral 
fiber" the judges make Harry's gesture about *getting points*.  They 
make it about winning.  Which is *not* what sportsmanship is all about.

HOWEVER!!

In this post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/152004
Ginger goes to canon, and causes a very loud "d'oh" to echo through my 
house.

> >>Ginger:
> <snip>
> Cedric:  47 points.  1st to return, although 1 minute outside the
> time limit.  Used bubble-head charm as well.
> <snip>
> Harry: 45 points.  Used gillyweed "to great effect".  Was the last to
> return.  Showed moral fibre by saving Gabriel.
> <snip of point analysis>
> It seems to me that Harry is getting bad press for being late, when,
> in fact, they were all late, if they arrived at all.
> I don't think in something this subjective, 6-10 points for moral
> fibre is that out of line.  Had he not shown it, he would have
> arrived before the time was up.  They had no negative comments about
> any other part of his performance, so he would probably have gotten
> the full 50.  In other words, moral fibre cost him 5 points, but not
> the full 11-16 that being late would have cost him had he not had a
> good reason for being late.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
So, erm... yeah, turns out *Cedric* actually won this particular 
challenge.  (Which would explain his lack of protest anyway. <g>)

I agree with Ginger's analysis that Harry gained more points for his 
use of gillyweed and his returning with a hostage (something Fluer 
lost points for) than for his "moral fiber".  Which does make me feel 
better, but also takes a lot of the wind out of the sails of my 
argument.

As the creator of this particular thread I do apologize for not 
checking canon myself.  Sorry. :(  

Betsy Hp (feeling a bit sheepish, but still standing firm that good 
sportsmanship should have nothing to do with winning or losing and 
moral fiber should be its own reward)








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