[HPforGrownups] Another Snape thread

Wed May 10 02:27:32 UTC 2006

No: HPFGUIDX 152064

>justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:

>With  apologies to Geoff and to anyone else who's tired of discussing
>Snape,  I can't get the man out of my mind. I know perfectly well that
>he's a  fictional character, but I worry and wonder about him as if he
>were  real and feel thwarted because I can't do anything about  the
>predicament he has landed himself in.  <snip>
Nikkalmati:
Yes, Carol, I worry about Snape too, but I try not to lose sleep over  it.<g>

>justcarol:
>My concern is this. Snape has nowhere to go  except to Voldemort
(where, I think, DD wanted and expected him to go at the  end of the
>year given that he assigned him the DADA position). If he's  ESE! or
>OFH!, then it doesn't matter. He's wicked, he'll stay wicked,  and
>that's that. But if he's DDM!--if he killed Dumbledore against  his
>will because he had no choice--it matters very much. What will he  do
>now? What *can* he do?

Nikkalmati:
I think Draco who apparently apparated on his own, did not go to LV.   He 
would probably go home, because he was not sure of how LV would take the  events 
on the Tower.  Snape has to go to LV because that is where the DE's  are 
headed and he has to give his side of the story.  I also think he has  to try to 
talk LV into forgiving Draco for not killing DD. (The UV may  still be active 
and at the end it may get SS;  he could ultimately die  protecting Draco). I 
think SS has enough cachet at this time to pull it  off. Maybe he will vouch for 
Draco's future conduct and take him under his  wing.  My question is how, if 
he is DDM, will SS broach the topic to  Draco?  He can't just sit him down and 
say: you saw me kill DD, but  actually I support the Order and I think you 
should too!  He will have to  be subtle about it.  I think he will have 
Narcissa's help.  She  probably never was a LV fanatic and she will be beholding to SS 
big  time. (Lucias will not be too pleased with LV either).  Then he  will 
work on PP by whatever underhanded blackmailing trick it takes.  The  Order then 
will have several spies in LV's camp. 
Nikkalmati

justcarol
<snip>

>What, then, can he do? Does anyone  think that he can, as a reward for
>killing Dumbledore, ask for an  assignment that doesn't involve
>anything so crude as an Unforgiveable  Curse, <snip>

Nikkalmati:
 I think unfortunately much of what happens to SS will not occur on  stage.  
We will hear about some of it, but not be witnesses.  Harry  and friends will 
be the focus.  I find it very believable that SS will not  have to do any "wet 
work".  He is in a position to become a consigliere, a  "trusted" advisor, 
and as long as he doesn't slip up he can pick his jobs.   Who else can LV rely 
on?  We haven't seen much in the way of brains on his  side.  SS will need a 
mediator to communicate with the Order.  I  doubt the Order will be convinced to 
trust him.  Maybe Lupin or  Minerva or Dobby will be convinced through some 
communication left by DD.   (If DD is alive in some form, I doubt the portrait 
will speak).  I  sometimes imagine HG will put 2 and 2 together and be 
convinced he must be on  the Order's side.  He may have to use Fawlks, if available.  
A  patronus does not convey much information I fear.  He may help collect or  
give information on horcruxes.  I picture Bill as helping with their  
destruction.   
Nikkalmati 

<justcarol
>Ideas, anyone? What do you think Snape will be up to,  mostly off page,
>in Book 7? Surely all those revelations about him in HBP  don't lead to
>a dead end on the tower.

Nikkalmati:
Yes, he has had a lot of face time in the series.  JKR can't drop him  now.  
He will play a key role somewhere.  If he is DDM, Harry will  have to have a 
major change of heart during Book 7 as regards SS. I see  this development as 
one of the major events of the book.  I hope it doesn't  require SS's death to 
accomplish it.  

Nikkalmati (hoping SS lives to become headmaster of Hogwarts. At least he  
won't have to teach)  

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