Ginny/possession

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 152207

> Alla:
> 
> Okay, midnight here, so I am going to post briefly before I go to 
> bed. 
> 
> How do you figure that the fact that Ginny remembered SOME things 
> equals her not being possessed at all?
> 
> Isn't Riddle just easing his grip on her when diary was not with her 
> equally possible?

Pippin:
Not according to Ginny.

"Are there big blank periods when you don't know what you've been
up to?"
Harry racked his brains.
"No," he said.
"Then You-Know-Who hasn't ever possessed you," said Ginny simply.
"When he did it to me, I couldn't remember what I'd been doing for
hours at a time. I'd find myself somewhere and not know how I
got there."
--OOP ch 23

No memory gaps=no possession. It's as plain as that. If Ginny thought
that Voldemort could maintain a light grip on someone without their
knowing it, she could hardly have been so reassuring.
 
Alla:
> In any event, we  are definitely not going to agree on Ginny being 
> possessed all the  time or not, 

Pippin:
So no inconvenient canon fact will change your mind? That's, um, candid.
:)

Alla:
but won't you at least agree that Ginny was WEAKENED 
> significantly by her struggles  with Riddle at the rime she was 
> possessed. I mean, I am having trouble to imagine a scenario for at 
> least part of Riddle not being in her head all the time, but for the 
> sake of the argument  let's say that I do.
> 
> Woudn't you agree that Ginny was at least emotionally ill, tired , 
> upset in the brief period of time that she was not possessed and not 
> in the good state of mind to make any rational decisions?

Pippin:
Sure. Wouldn't you agree that Draco was in a similar state? His
father was in jail, his family disgraced both in the eyes of the
WW and in Voldemort's, he'd been subjected to occlumency
lessons with Bella, and Harry was stalking him. And that's
*before* Voldie started threatening his family.

> 
> Alla,
> 
> still scratching her head over Ginny being more liable than Draco.

Pippin:
Draco had been raised to think that Voldemort was a hero, that
Dark Magic is cool, that people like Harry's parents and the 
Longbottoms were traitors who deserved what they got, 
and that Dumbledore was the worst thing that had ever 
happened to Hogwarts. Naturally he was pleased to take
part in Voldemort's plans.  He never thought  that his
friends would be in danger. Up until the tower,
nothing had happened to make him seriously question the
things he'd been brought up to believe. But a few words from 
Dumbledore, plus Fenrir in the raiding party,  were enough to 
make him lower his wand.

But Ginny knew the attacks were dreadful, she knew she 
had some responsibility, she knew her friends were in danger. 
She knew from the moment that she began to suspect she
was involved in the attacks. In that sense, she's more to
blame than Draco, though I'd agree that both of them were
underage and not fully responsible for what they did.

Pippin