Ginny Haters

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 152230

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mandorino222" 
<mandorino222 at ...> wrote:
>
> Look at all this hate for Ginny! 

Do I hear someone calling my name? I believe I do.

 In my view, Ginny only takes out her 
> anger on people who deserve it.

Oh, well that makes it okay then. 'Cause what we want to encourage is 
more teenagers taken things into their own hands and showing no 
consequences or punishments as a result of their actions.

  Ron had no business telling her off 
> and (stopping just short of) calling her a slut.

IIRC, he didn't call her a slut or stop short of doing so. He asked 
her if she wanted other people thinking she was which is a whole 
different beast. I went to high school with my younger sister, and 
you bet your behind I watched out for her. No one knows better than a 
teenage brother what boys want to do to their nubile teenage sister. 
If Ginny had been my sister...

Zacharias Smith had 
> no business questioning her inclusion on the team and calling it 
> favoritism.

Pesky opinions you aren't allowed to have. Regardless of whether he 
was right or wrong, he is allowed to have an opinion and not be 
assaulted for it. And for me, my problem with the scene isn't so much 
that it happens, but that we are supposed to like it and see it as 
something cool and spunky instead of the bullyish action it actually 
was--the second piece of bullying we saw directed at Zack Smith by 
Ginny.  

I think a lot of scenes with Ginny are that way; heavy handed 
attempts at getting the audience to like her, only for me at least, 
she doesn't come off as likeable. Which is sort of a problem when its 
harry's love interest in the story. 

  Also let's not forget the haughty disdainful Fleur of GOF 
> in deciding whether the chicken of Ginny's dislike came before the 
egg 
> of Fleur's attitude.

Yes, it can't possibly be petty jealousy over a preturnaturally 
beautiful woman going at her big brother and stealing him away from 
the only girl of the family. Ginny doesn't have nasty feelings like 
that. She is above those sorts of things.

honestly the most insulting thing about Fleur/Ginny bit is that once 
again we are supposed to see the Phlegm nickname as funny. And it 
isn't. Its stupid. The twins are funny. Ron is funny. Harry is funny. 
Dumbledore is funny. Luna is funny. JKR can write funny.

Ginny is not funny. 

  Additionally, we know for a fact that she sticks 
> up for Luna. 

We know that Luna says that. We also never see it happen. We do 
however see Ginny call Luna Loony when she isn't around. The only 
people we see stick up for Luna is Harry and Ron. Once again, Ginny 
is all talk and no follow through--a repeating problem in HBP and 
OOTP. 

We hear litanies about Ginnys power and mastery of cursing but we 
never see either in action and she is in fact dropped pretty fast 
during the minstry action.  We hear about how funny she is and she 
does nothing that makes me laugh in the entire book. We hear how she 
is a great friend to Luna and we don't see a single example of that.

Ginny, and by extension, JKR, who is always talking her up, is trying 
way too hard. We don't need any interviews telling us how fantasic a 
wizard DD is. He oozes his might in every scene, from the quiet to 
the comical to the battles.  We shouldn't have to get interviews 
explaining why she is so powerful and perfect for Harry. It should be 
obvious on the page. And it isn't. And for a not insignificant part 
of the fandom, Ginny isn't even all that likeable--let alone Harry's 
equal.

 She's an instrument of Justice; if you mess with Ginny, 
> you reap what you sow.

How many instances in the book can you name where we saw Ginny stick 
up for the little guy, or fought a bad guy to protect someone weaker 
than herself? Not heard about second hand from a character or through 
an authors interview, but actually saw it in the books?

I can think of exactly one in six books.

Harry has more instrument of Justice in an eyelash than Ginny has 
ever displayed. She's too busy being petty and mean.
 
> As for making fun of Ron, he's her BROTHER.  Do any of you have 
> siblings?    

Yes, and if my sister had used the ammo on me that Ginny used on Ron, 
I would have done far worse than he does.  Ginny was LOW in that 
scene.

> I hate to break it to everyone, but we're supposed to LIKE Ginny.  
> We're supposed to laugh at her jokes.  We're supposed to approve of 
> her behavior.

I agree, we are supposed to. But I don't. And so don't a lot of other 
people. That's a problem. 

>I, for one, think she's hilarious, ballsy, vivacious, 
> and probably extremely hot.  Harry deserves no less. 

Harry does deserve no less. Which is why I don't want to subject him 
to Ginny. 
 
> Do y'all have bad experiences with these types of people?  

I love those kind of people. I'm marrying that kind of person. Ginny 
is not that person.

She is a bad caricature of that kind of person.

phoenixgod2000, summoned through the sheer power of Ginny hate