CHAPT DICUSS 15 The Unbreakable Vow

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> >>Carol:
> CHAPTER DISCUSSION: Harry Potter and the  Half-Blood Prince,       
> Chapter 15, The  Unbreakable Vow.
> <snip summary>

> And why would Slughorn  invite Trelawney, of all people, along
> with his Slug Club, his celebrity  guests, and his former star      
> pupil, Severus  Snape?

>Betsy Hp:
>Because both Trelawney and Snape are Slugclub  members.  Trelawney, 
>like McLaggen and Blaise, is there because of  her family (her 
>grandmother Cassandra, the famous seerer).  Snape,  like Hermione, is 
>there because of his  abilities.

<snip>>

> Do you detect any genuine  affection on Slughorn's part for his
> brilliant former student, or is it  all jovial bluster and too much
> mead? Did you feel any sympathy for  Snape during this conversation?
> Why or why not?

>Betsy  Hp:
>There must be some affection there or Snape wouldn't have attended  
>the party.  Nor would he have suffered being snatched out of the  
>crowd.  We learn at Spinner's End that Snape actually can handle  
>social occasions well (contrary to much fanon) so I imagine he was  
>even enjoying himself a little.
<snip|>

Nikkalmati:
I was puzzled about Snape's presence at the party more than Trelawney's. It  
doesn't seem that he is the party type at all.  Especially as they were the  
only faculty there.  Was he watching Harry?  But then why wasn't he  watching 
Draco instead?  It doesn't seem to me that he and Slughorn are  that close, 
although Slughorn should have been interested in "collecting"  SS.  Snape appears 
tolerant of being a bit manhandled here. So maybe  he was in the Slug club, 
but Slughorn does not praise Snape as he would one  of his collection.   
Perhaps we will see more of their relationship in  Book 7. 
Nikkalmati


> 11) What do you make of Draco's contempt for  DADA, his attempt at
> Occlumency, his reaction to Snape's Unbreakable  Vow, and his
> accusation that Snape is trying to steal his  glory?

>Betsy Hp:
I> hear Bellatrix in just about all of Draco's  statements.  She's 
>using Draco to gain her own glory, and Draco is  too young and 
>inexperienced to realize it.  And I think he's  confused because 
>everything he's been taught to believe is starting to  come down 
>around his ears.

Nikkalmati: 
I certainly see Bellatrix's hand here too.  She is using Draco to  improve 
her own position, but even more to bring Snape down a peg or two (or  even get 
him killed).  Snape assumed that with Narcissa's help he would be  able to find 
out from Draco what he was doing and counter it (DDM assumed  here).  
However, Bella. dear Auntie, steps in and teaches Draco  Occulumency, helps him with 
his Hogsmead plans, talks down Snape, and convinces  Draco to rely on her and 
cut SS out. I don't think she told LV about the  Vow.  It would land Narcissa 
in so much trouble and I think she has more  family loyalty than that. If she 
didn't tell LV, I don't think he knows about  it.  JMO.
Nikkalmati






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