Ginny's Behavior

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 152358

Gerry:
> Canon for that please. What I saw and have already backed up with
canon is a very stuck up, egocentric and vain guest who looks down on
their home and who is going to be family. No wonder Mrs. weasley ,
Ginny and the twins don't like that and it is also clear Ron is still
a bit taken with her. This also obviously is part of why Hermione does
not like her, but it is also for a great part due to Fleut being 'so
full of herself' Yes, calling her Phlegm is typically teenage
behaviour but it is clear that the reason is the way Fleur is acting

Ceridwen:
I'm not sure which you want canon for - the ages of the Weasley 
children?  Ginny's adoration for Bill?  Or for the criticism by 
a 'snot-nosed fifteen year old sib who adores him and probably 
doesn't want him to marry *anybody* who will take him away from her, 
which pretty much means anybody at all'?

I saw Fleur as fighting back against a tide of dislike from her 
fiance's mother and sister, not as being the agressor in the 
criticism war.  It hadn't gotten to the most horrible point during 
the summer, but by Christmas, it was out of control.  So when Fleur 
called Molly on her unfounded assumption in the hospital wing in HBP 
(US Scholastic hardcover pg 623) I was not at all surprised.  She had 
been fighting that attitude from Molly and Ginny the whole year, and 
between the stress of the year and the stress of the moment, she most 
definitely told them off:

"You thought I would not weesh to marry him?  Or per'aps, you 
hoped?"  said Fleur, her nostrils flaring.

I completely saw where she got the idea that Molly didn't like her 
and *hoped* she would forget about Bill.  And on page 622, Ginny's 
eyes narrow slightly as she watches Fleur with Bill.  Eyes usually 
only narrow in dislike, absent bright light.  One way people try to 
drive away an unwanted person is by treating them shabbily.  I 
thought Molly and Ginny treated Fleur very shabbily.  As the hosts, 
and Molly as the prospective Mother-in-law, they had more of a burden 
to try and make their guest feel at home, even in the face of 
rudeness.  Instead, they laid into her, did things they knew she 
wouldn't like, called her names not quite behind her back and laughed 
about her in ways that I imagine she could at least see if not hear.

If you saw it differently, all you need to do is look around a minute 
to see how many people read the same scenes and envision something 
different.

But, you began your last post to me by accusing me of sexism.  I must 
have run across your canon support for your viewpoint about Fleur, 
but I went upthread and couldn't find it.  It must be elsewhere.  
Could you point me to the post?  Thanks!

Ceridwen.