Horcurx making - when, who, what and where is it? ( was Re: a new? topic)

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 152445

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at ...> wrote:
>
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cleverestwitchofherage" 
> > <cleverestwitchofherage@> wrote:
> > > Does anybody else wonder when or how the Vanishing Cabinet 
broke? 
> 
> Geoff:
> The relevant canon is:
> 
(snip)> 
> But as Filch lowered his quill, there was a great BANG! on the 
ceiling of the office, which made the oil lamp rattle.
> 
> "PEEVES!" Filch roared, flinging down his quill in a transport of 
rage.  "I'll have you this time, I'll have you!"'
> 
> (COS "The Deathday Party" p.97 UK edition)
> 'Filch was looking triumphant.
> "That vanishing cabinet was extremely valuable!" he was saying 
> gleefully to Mrs.Norris. "We'll have Peeves out this time, my 
sweet." 
> (ibid. p.98)
> 

Tonks:
Humm
.   not good.  That means that for how many years that entrance 
to Hogwarts has been there?  When did the vanishing cabinet first 
get to Hogwarts?  Where did it come from?

LV could have come into the castle and left Hufflepuff's cup as a 
horcrux in the trophy room.  Right?  Where is that cup?

Who did LV kill for each of his horcruxes?  DD tell us (HBP) that LV 
tried to make his horcrux killings significant.  LV was going to use 
Harry's death to make the last Horcrux. But since he couldn't DD 
guesses that Nagini is the last one and it was made with the death 
of Frank Brice.

We know that the 3 Riddles were killed when Tom was still a young 
man and maybe just out of Hogwarts.  Here we have the horcruxes of 
the journal, the ring and the locket.  According to DD there are 3 
more. The last one is the snake (maybe). We need something from 
Hufflepuff and from Ravenclaw.  The wand at Ollivander's must be the 
Ravenclaw wand. Who did LV kill for that one?  And who did he kill 
for Hufflepuff?  And there is an obvious problem here.  There is 
nothing from Gryffindor.  If we need one from Gryffindor then the 
snake can not be one. (unless the Journal was recycled somehow, but 
I don't think so.)

Harry will have to find the real locket, which is probably still a 
horcrux since it can not be opened. Then Harry will have to find the 
wand that Ollivander took with him when he presumably went into 
hiding.  Then Harry will have to find the Hufflepuff cup. And then 
the real question will be the 'last horcrux'.  Sounds like a chapter 
title to me.

If LV needed one more horcrux and he did not have one yet for 
Gryffindor, it makes sense that the murder of Harry at GH would have 
been the killing that he need to make that one. But what object was 
he going to use?  Did he have it with him that night? What is it and 
where is it now?  Does PP know?  God help us, does Snape know??  
That would put us back to Snape being there, and I don't think that 
he was.  Wouldn't LV do his horcrux killings alone?  None of his DE 
seem to know about the horcruxes, and a good thing too because what 
would prevent one of them from doing the same thing and becoming a 
political threat to LV.

Tonks_op