Sexy Snape / JKR's men (was:Re: What's fun about the HPs?...)
Ceridwen
ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Thu May 18 22:26:00 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 152470
Betsy Hp:
> Okay, I'm about to channel my inner-Pansy here, unleash my
simpering
girly-girlness, and horrify JKR, but...
Ceridwen:
(pulling a chair up to the table and setting out the flavored creamer
to go with the good dish coffee and kuchen)
My inner Pansy is squeeing in delight!
Betsy Hp:
> Oh, my Lord, yes, yes, a thousand times yes! Snape is so very,
incredibly, mind meltingly sexy, IMO. I am completely and totally
positive that there is a strong and healthy Snape fanclub at
Hogwarts. Probably tilted towards Slytherins, but with its fair
share of Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs, and even a few rogue
Gryffindors bravely defying their house's bias.
Ceridwen:
Snape is the only male teacher we know about who is young and
dynamic, enough so that there have got to be young witches with huge
crushes on him. House be damned, I would bet. And before anyone
says anything about bias against Gryffindors, or from Gryffindors
toward Slytherins - when I was in basic training, quite a few of the
female troops had crushes on the drill sergeants. And Snapier people
you will never find.
Betsy Hp:
> And no, it's not Rickman. (Though I do like Rickman, I think he
was mis-cast in this role. He's too old, unfortunately...
Ceridwen:
Too old, yes, but his *voice*! Oy, I could die! But, I was
intrigued by Snape and by the completely unknown future JKR had in
mind for him before I saw the movies. The character was compelling
from the minute he gave Harry the 'evil eye'.
Betsy Hp:
> But yeah, smart gets me every time, and Snape has smarts in
buckets. Plus he's got that amazing wit he's so not afraid to use.
(Sometimes when he shouldn't, I'll admit.) And to dredge up
Sydney's Jogging!Snape, he's also in incredible shape (running from
the dungeon to the top of the astronomy tower and then back down,
still able to cower werewolves and fend off pissed off students...)
and wonderfully skilled with his wand. (my inner-Pansy is giggling
madly...)
Ceridwen:
I like wordplay, and I like it when people can dredge up thoughtful
references. The mind certainly sways it for me! The wit goes along
with wordplay, and he is a master wordsmith. Being in shape only
makes it that much better. More eye-candy. *g* And, competent in
his craft is certainly attractive. It's the whole 'can he support
me' thing that is so not in vogue these days. Which, of course,
brings us to the wand, which he seemingly disparages, but which he is
a master at as well. My Pansy is holding hands with your Pansy and
jumping up and down.
Betsy Hp:
> [O]ne of the things that is so interesting about Snape as a
character is he's such a combination of male and female qualities.
He's good with a wand and with a cauldron.
Ceridwen:
I never liked the sort of guy who concentrated only on his masculine
side for fear of failing at being male. Snape doesn't have this
problem. That just lends dignity to him, which unfortunately, Harry
doesn't see. Maybe this dualness makes him a richer character. I
think that if Snape was all about the Macho, he wouldn't be nearly as
interesting nor as deep.
And, speaking about Lockhart and the Chamber of Secrets, I was struck
by the way Snape gripped the chair when he heard that Ginny had been
taken. Female, absolutely. Or, male? Holding himself back so
Lockhart could do what the DADA teacher is supposed to do in this
sort of situation? In either event, it was a glaring show of
emotion, which is also attractive (when not overdone, and this
certainly wasn't).
Betsy Hp:
> And of course, JKR as a master of hurt/comfort with her guys,
doesn't spare Snape. So there's that going for him, too.
Ceridwen:
Agreed. But another aspect of this is his apparent determination,
sometimes wrongheaded in my opinion, of holding it all in. I would
say stereotypically male, but I would then fear that people would
miss the 'stereotypical'. I know both males and females who do this,
and it lends an air of impending tragedy.
*(snipping more things I completely agree with)*
Betsy Hp:
> The funny thing is that I *never* thought Lockhart was sexy. At
all. Did anybody, I wonder? Because, while he was described as
being physically attractive, his personality was off-putting from
the start.
Ceridwen:
Same here. Lockhart is one of those guys you see with groupies
gathered around him, and you just wonder why. Too pretty, too aware
of it. Though he did seem to have some charisma to explain the wide
fanbase.
My Pansy is waiting for the others, with plenty of coffee brewing, or
tea if you'd rather.
Ceridwen.
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