Abuse, etc., was Snape, Apologies, and and Redemption--Lupin vs. DD

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> a_svirn:
> I don't think so. Harry has no problem with teachers being 
abusive. 
> He applauded to Crouch Jr.'s exemplary chastisement of Draco, for 
> instance. That was unquestionably abuse in every possible sense, 
and 
> yet Harry trusted "Professor Moody" implicitly. For the simple 
> reason that it was Draco, (and not Harry or his friends) who was 
on 
> the receiving end of this abusive treatment. 

Alla:

Um, my point is that Harry does not trust Snape because he was 
abusive towards him, which in my book is perfectly understandable 
whether or not Harry has a problem with abusive teachers in general.


A-svirn: 
> As for "abusive member or former member of the gang of the racists 
> and murderers" Harry didn't see Snape behaving like them. Well, OK 
> for "racists" he did see him calling Lilly "mudblood". But in any 
> case that wasn't something he did in the classroom. So, although 
it 
> was an additional reason not to trust him, it had nothing to do 
with 
> his "abusive" teaching methods.


Alla:

Yes, that has nothing to do with one another. You brought Snape 
being a DE as the reason that Harry does not trust him, not me, I 
was just agreeing that it is a good additional reason of doing so, 
NOT the main one before HBP.

 Personally I think that Snape's abuse IS the main reason of Harry's 
distrust. So, what I am trying to say is that I am agreeing with 
you, but I was thinking more in post HBP realm, not post OOP, since 
Harry indeed did not have a chance to witness Snape behaviour as DE 
yet and with Hermione constantly repeating that DD trusts Snape , so 
that is Okay, etc.

Basically, I don't think that Snape a DE played in Harry mistrust 
much.
 Now, POST HBP - sure, then Harry does not trust Snape, because he 
knows that Snape played a part in his parents deaths, because he 
witnessed Snape murdering Dumbledore, etc.

JMO,

Alla, counts to four and dissappears.