Noticed Something: Draco's Helpers

whirledgirl blink_883 at hotmail.com
Tue May 23 18:41:51 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 152766

bboyminn:

> But that raises another issue, how is Draco communicating with 
people
> outside the school. Everything is being closely monitored, so it is
> unlikely that he is using Owl Post, and it's unlikely that he is
> sneaking out of the school to meet someone at the gate, and he
> certainly isn't sneaking off of the school grounds. 
> 
> The enchanted coin he uses to contact Rosemerta I think is fine to
> control her, but that doesn't explain how he is contacting and
> engaging the complex assistance of Death Eaters. He certainly must
> have some covert means of communications, but what is it? Of course
> the books doesn't tell us, so we are completely in the realm of
> speculation, but it seems an important deatail, and it seems a
> vulnerability in Hogwart's defenses. 
> 
> So, what could it be?
> 
> Two way mirrors .....<SNIP>
> Patronus - We know the Order communicated using their Patronus, but
> again we don't know the limitations of that. ...<SNIP>I think it 
is somewhat implied that the Patronus can carry a short verbal 
message, but how short or long is unclear. I speculate that you can 
not carry on a dialog or  conversation via Partonus; it's more like 
email than a telephone. 

Both of these would be undetectable and unstoppable, although a 
silvery Patronus form rushing out of the castle might be noticed by 
someone. Yet, it certainly can't be stopped, which is why the Order 
uses it.

<SNIP>

WG:
IMO, Two way mirrors it isn't. Draco says he got the coin idea from 
Hermione, so maybe if Harry had used the mirrors (and Draco seen 
them etc), we could surmise Draco may have used them. However, this 
didn't happen, and there could always be something *similar* we 
don't know about that DE's use to communicate.

I don't believe DE or Drace communicate using a patronus. Imagine 
all those DEs in Azkaban, if they could all cast a patronus?
I believe that in order to cast a patronus - a witch or wizard has 
to have felt a very strong moment/s of love, purer the better. I 
don't think that DEs have anything that they could feasibly use 
as 'patronus material'. 
Furthermore, i always envisaged a patronus carrying a message but it 
not being verbal - for instance, the patronus is 'sucked' into the 
recipient's wand and then the recipient hears the message in their 
ear, or even in their head as a sort of telepathic message. I doubt 
a patronus would be much use in an emergency, if it didn't ensure 
the message was a private one.

ON THE OTHER HAND! Snape does 'intercept' (even though we don't know 
how, we know he did!) the message that Tonks sent to Hagrid. How did 
he intercept it? We find out that Hagrid was only a few minutes late 
to dinner - was Snape on the lookout for Harry, or something/one 
else? Or was Tonks so distracted that she made such a basic mistake? 
If anyone could intercept a patronus message, it wouldn't secure 
enough! 

Consider also the amount of effort it took Harry to master the 
patronus. We know that Draco has been taught Occulmency ("I see Aunt 
Bellatrix has been teaching you..."HBP - when Harry overhears Snape 
and Draco talking), and IMO DEs communicate using a combination of 
Legilimency/or something similar. Harry, IMO, couldn't master 
Occlumency because he has a 'simple', that is to say un-deceitful, 
soul and mind - he can't grasp the concept of hiding one's thoughts 
in such a way. 

WG*











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