Lupin and Snape WAS: Re: Hagrid and Snape:

[leslie41]

No: HPFGUIDX 152775

> Alla:
> 
> I am not absolving Lupin of responsibility of forgetting to take 
> the potion. He undoubtedly deserved some kind of punishment for 
> that, but the thing is did he deserve to LOSE his job because of 
> that?

Leslie41:
Resoundingly, YES.  And I adore Remus Lupin.  But his actions (or 
lack thereof) in PoA show that he's not "responsible" enough to 
carry on at Hogwarts.  

The one thing Remus Lupin has to do to prevent death and destruction 
at Hogwarts is take his wolfsbane.  That. One. Thing.  

Which he doesn't do.  Three students almost die as a result, and no 
matter how preoccupied he was, that's thoroughly inexcusable, in 
terms of his responsibilities as a teacher.

He also doesn't tell DD about Sirius being an animagus, again which 
could hypothetically have seriously endangered Harry.

Snape may have revelled in the fact that there was a reason to get 
rid of Lupin, but it was his *responsibility* as a teacher at that 
point to reveal what Lupin was, since it was obvious Lupin was not 
responsible enough to deal with his lycanthropy.  Snape revealed it 
at the moment that it had become a proven danger to students, NOT 
before.  

An example from my own experience:  A decade ago one of the 
professors where I teach brought a gun to school.  He never took it 
out.  Just brought it with him.  Apparently he felt that one of the 
other female professors needed some sort of protecting or 
something.  

He was fired.  So very, very fired.  And rightly so.  What Lupin did 
was worse, and Lupin himself knows it, which (as has been said) why 
he doesn't blame Snape.

> Alla:
> I would say no and no again due to the fact that circumstances of 
> that forgetfullness were unique and unlikely to repeat and Lupin 
> is very likely to take more than necessary precautions in order 
> not to forget anymore.

Leslie41:
"Very likely" is not good enough, when one is a werewolf.
  
> Alla:
> I am sure Lupin in his mind punished himself plenty. Did he 
> deserve to go jobless? Not in my book.

It's not a matter of "deserving" to go jobless.  Lupin doesn't 
deserve to be jobless.  But he's proven that the job for him is not 
as teacher at Hogwarts, because he made a crucial error in judgement 
that could have resulted in at least three student deaths.

If I did that, I'd be fired.  I might not deserve to be jobless, but 
I'd be fired.
 
> Alla: 
> But this is NOT Snape business,and that is the main reason I was 
> so very pleased with JKR's answer about Remus returning to teach ( 
> even though I would LOVE for him to return).

Leslie41:
Of course it's Snape's business.  Just as it is my business if one 
of my colleagues does something to endanger the lives of our 
students.    

> Alla: 
> She called Snape's action for what it really was " doing 
> irreparable damage to Lupin 's prospects for career in teaching", 
> NOT thinking about safety of the kids, or anything like that.

Leslie41:
See, it's not either/or.  What it comes down to is Snape is able to 
get vengeance and do his "duty" at the same time.  He never 
fabricates anything about Lupin.  He simply reveals the *truth*.  If 
I actually enjoy reporting the abuses of a colleague because I don't 
happen to like him/her, does that mean it's not my duty to report 
it?  

Snape's very happy about Lupin's exit, but that doesn't change the 
fact that he needed to let out the fact that there was an 
irresponsible werewolf teaching at Hogwarts.