Predictions about book 7
Najwa
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Thu May 25 21:56:29 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 152919
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Najwa:
Those points are quite interesting and I hope that some of them are
true. I do like the Red Hen's Revised Changling Hypothesis, as much as
I loved the original. I felt that there was something going along
those lines from this scene in OOtP:
pg. 468 US edition, chapter 22
"You misunderstand me," said Dumbledore, still in the same calm tone.
"I mean...can you remember--- er---where you were positioned as you
watched this attack happen? Were you perhaps standing beside the
victim, or else looking down on the scene from above?" This was such a
curious question that Harry gaped at Dumbledore; it was almost as if
he knew...
Najwa again.
Some may argue that Dumbledore knew because of Legilimensy, however I
think it's more that he had a clue of the "connection".
OOtP again:
pg. 470
The instrument tinkled into life at once with rhythmic clinking
noises. Tiny puffs of pale green smoke became a steady stream of smoke
that thickened and coiled in the air...A serpent's head drew out of
the end of it, opening its mouth wide. Harry wondered whether the
instrument was confirming his story: He looked eagerly at Dumbledore
for a sign that he was right, but Dumbledore did not look up.
"Naturally, naturally," murmured Dumbledore apparently to himself,
still observing the stream of smoke without the slightest sign of
surprise. "But in essence divided?"
Harry could not make heads or tails of this question. The smoke
serpent however, split iitself instantly into two snakes, both coiling
and undulating in the dark air. With a look of grim satisfaction
Dumbledore gave the instrument another gentle tap with his wand:
--
All of this had always had me wondering, because he did not ask the
'usual' questions that someone would ask when being approached with
this sort of issue.
I emailed the Red hen with this and this was her response:
Red Hen:
It is very interesting that you should have brought that scene up.
We've been discussing it this week - at least briefly - over on one of
the boards that I look in on regularly. I hadn't really given it a lot
of consideration, previously.
It occured to one of the partcipants that this may be where the
suggestion that Nagini is the 6th Horcrux came from. Dumbledore knew
that Tom was involved in the attack. A snake doesn't just randomly get
into the DoM and go looking for someone to bite. And Harry wouldn't
have been linked into it if Tom wasn't involved, since his connection
is to Tom.
So as soon as Harry reported a snake attack he knew that whatever his
instrument showed it would probably be represented by a snake. That
was no surprise. Nor was it a surprise when the smokey snake split
into two.
It didn't, however, split into three. There was a physical snake, and
there was Tom. Harry ought to have been represented as well. (It is
possible that the instrument *was* really representing only Harry and
Tom and ignoring Nagini.)
Well the big news at the conclusion of OotP is that Albus Dumbledore
makes emotional mistakes.
He also has repeatedly demonstrated his conviction that other people
cannot handle the truth.
I think that perhaps he isn't quite as good at that himself as he
needs to be. Despite the fact that he has been dancing around the
issue of the significance of Harry's scar and the nature of his
connection to Lord Voldemort ever since the opening of the series, the
fact that he came out with the suggestion that Nagini may be the 6th
Horcrux was an even bigger suggestion that he may have led himself up
the garden path.
After all, he would hardly *want* to have to grapple with the problem
of Harry being the 6th Horcrux, which will *also* have to be destroyed
in order to get rid of their enemy. And, once examined, there *are* a
lot of oddities concerning Lord Voldemort's dealings with that snake.
So the suggestion *didn't* just come out of nowhere, even though one
certainly gets that impression when he pops out with it.
And Harry may remember the image of the smokey snake splitting into
two snakes eventually, and interpret it differently from the way Albus
did.
Najwa's response to that:
The splitting into two perhaps signified Harry and Tom, or Tom and
Nigini, but what we don't know is what Dumbledore asked the
instrument. He could have asked it why is Harry dreaming that he bit
Arthur Weasley? That was my take on it.
Now if Harry was a Horcrux, he would have to destroy all the other
horcruxes and the walking talking new Voldie. I think this will lead
to a scene when, after all the horcruxes were destroyed, Harry will
finally face Voldemort and destroy him. A few minutes of celebration
and triumph will follow, until the Voldie horcrux stuck in the Scar
will begin to retaliate and laugh in Harry's face and begin an
internal battle. The red hen suggests that since it is but a mere
memory of Tom riddle stuck in him, that perhaps it can be obliviated.
I am not sure if that is the case, or if I totally agree to that one,
but I do like the idea. My thought on this is that either Harry will
have to walk through the veil, and since he is carrying two souls
inside of him, he might be able to battle it in the land of death
behind the veil, see some lost loved ones and get to get some closure
and perhaps they might be able to help, including Merope subduing her
own monsterous son, and finally walk back out triumphant, as well as
scarless. He might get stuck there as well. It's a toss up, but I hope
for the prior to happen. That's what runs through my mind when I think
of "The final battle".
Najwa
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