Harry's death

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Sat May 27 15:28:51 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 152990

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "juli17ptf" <juli17 at ...> wrote:
>
> Julie:
> I've seen this theory before, that Harry will die and rejoin his 
> loved ones beyond the veil, and I personally can't imagine a worse 
> ending. Or a worse message to send children (who still make up a 
> large number if not a majority of HP readers). It's like 
> saying  "Don't bother about this life, the next one's so much better 
anyway! Especially if you've lost loved ones, you can just join them 
for a fabulous friend and family reunion! (Snip) 

If he(Harry) dies without ever having had the opportunity to 
> embrace life and all it can give him, then he won't be moving on to 
the *next* adventure, because he won't have experienced the first 
> one. And Harry deserves NOTHING less than that. I can only believe 
> that his parents, Sirius, and the others beyond the veil who love him 
also want that for him far more than they want him to come "home." 

Tonks:
I agree that Harry must live.  I know that JKR has set us up all along 
for the strong possibility that Harry will die. Which, as we all have 
come to know our author, might well mean that this is the LAST thing 
that will happen to him.

Early on I thought that Harry was a Christ figure and in many ways he 
still is, but she has said that he is "every boy" which translates to 
Everyman as others here have being saying that Harry is all along.  If 
he is Everyman then it follows that he must live and live well. (As St. 
Irenaeus, said "the glory of God is a human being fully alive".) 
Harry `the boy who lived' should have a long and full life like DD.  

Yet he is the "chosen one", he has a "saving people thing" both of 
which are references to a Christ figure.  But as I have written before 
I think that we have a Christ figure in DD and DD has already made the 
supreme sacrifice.  I think it would cheapen DD's death if Harry dies 
too.  So I don't thing that she will go there.

I also agree that JKR must think about the message she is sending 
children and teens.  Think about the depressed teens (or adults for 
that matter) that consider suicide.  The last message we want to give 
to them is that death is the best way out of the pain.  (On a side 
note: I think that when Merope died she did so because she was 
depressed and thought that, as many depressed people do, that her son 
would be better off without her. So in her own, twisted by depression, 
thinking she made a sacrifice for her son.) 

Who knows maybe Harry will have to live his life with LV within HIM.  
You know, doing what is right instead what is easy.  He will not kill 
himself to destroy LV, he will learn to bring the out the good, the 
love within him, day by day, overcoming that tiny bit of LV that still 
exist within him. That would be a good message too.  I have often 
thought that she might end up with the message that we much each 
overcome LV within ourselves.  This would do it.  

Or how about this...  the spirit of DD in the form of a phoenix comes 
to be with Harry and helps him, again day by day to overcome LV, not in 
the world for LV will no longer be in the exterior world, but will be 
only within Harry.  This would fit with what I think the theme of her 
series is about. 

Thoughts?

Tonks_op









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