Terminal Stupidity of Snapey-Poo (was Re: Nice vs. Good - Compassion)b

[leslie41]

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> > Leslie41: 
> > Well, you're putting words in Snape's mouth.  I can't recall 
> > anywhere that Snape himself admits that Harry is "the Chosen 
> > One".  
> > 
> > That's what a lot of people believe, but personally I don't 
> > think Snape does, in part because I can't see him believing that 
> > Trelawney is capable of a decent prophecy.
> 
> Lupinlore:
> Well, that is certainly one defense for Snape, I suppose -- 
> terminal stupidity.  

Leslie41:

I fail to see how Snape's possible disregard for Divination makes 
him "stupid."  Hermione thinks it's hooey as well, and she's the 
smartest student at Hogwarts, probably.  Even Harry, in GoF, thinks 
Trelawney is all "lucky guesswork and a spooky manner."

Leslie41:
> > As a legilimens I would guess that he thinks divination is a 
> > bunch of drivel, especially since Trelawney is a kook.  

> Lupinlore:
> Oh dear.  That would come strong from Snapey-poo, as his 
> explanation for legilimency, specifically his claim that it is 
> different than mind-reading, is the very epitome of drivel.  As 
> Harry himself thought, sounds exactly like mind reading to me.
> 
Leslie41:
And what on earth does mind-reading have to do with divination, 
pray tell (as I myself am not a mind-reader)?

> > Leslie41:   
> > As for trying to get Harry expelled...come on, according to 
> > the "rules" Harry should have been expelled for the stuff he 
> > did.  Snape sees Harry as a boy who doesn't think the rules 
> > apply to him, and Snape is right.  
> > 
> 
> Lupinlore:
> Actually, Harry's the one in the right, here.  Many times the 
> rules really DON'T apply to him.  To appeal to JKR's quotes 
> (always a scary business), she says something to the affect 
> that "Dumbledore allows Harry privileges he would never allow 
> another student."  

Leslie41:
Often times Harry "breaks the rules" in order to save people or to 
do good.  Often, he breaks them just for the hell of it, or to have 
fun, or whatever. Even Lupin chastizes him for taking the Marauder's 
Map and going to Hogsmeade when it was against the rules.

I can see how that would annoy Snape, and anyone else who, perhaps, 
had to stay at Hogwarts because of a missed permission slip.     

> Lupinlore:
> If we take that as face value, and allow, as she seems to imply, 
> that the rules at Hogwarts are pretty much entirely under DD's 
> control, then once again Snapey-poo is showing terminal stupidity, 
> as he just can't get it through his head that Harry is entirely 
> right -- the rules DON'T apply to Harry Potter.

Leslie41:

Ah, so Harry gets to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, 
according to you?  Well, that's manifestly false, of course.  And if 
it were true I think we would all feel about Harry the way Snape 
does.

You see, the rules DO apply to Harry in many, if not most 
situations, because much of the time he breaks rules for the same 
reasons the Marauders did.  Because he wants to have fun, or he's 
curious, etc.    

Do you think Dumbledore would have approved of Harry appearing in 
Hogsmeade in PoA?

But I'll say this for Harry.  At least Harry didn't betray the man 
that enabled him to attend Hogwarts by roaming about the grounds 
every month in full werewolf mode, endangering the safety of 
everyone at the school for month after month, year after year.  

That's a kind of rule breaking that goes beyond anything Harry's 
done.   

And I actually really *like* Remus Lupin.  A whole lot.  I just get 
a bit, well, *techy* when readers go into full attack mode over 
Severus Snape, and gush about how wonderful Black and Lupin are.  
Every nasty thing that gets done to Snape is explained away, as well 
as every good thing Snape himself does.  

I think they all deserve a good bit of slack, truthfully, which I 
give them--*all* of them, Snape included.

And, Lupinlore, a word to the wise: Better take a different tack, 
than calling Snape "terminally stupid."  That's never going to get 
you *anywhere*.