Horcrux Discussion

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 160854

Sandra wrote:
> <snip>
> My question is:  does anybody REALLY know that Harry contains that
> last piece of Voldemort's soul?  I remember that he was supposed to
be the sacrifice for the last piece, but does anybody have any idea
what object the soul was supposed to go into with his sacrifice?  I
mean, wouldn't Voldemort have had to have the intended object with him
when he did the incantation and made the sacrifice?  Since it wasn't
> actually completed properly (i.e.: he gets blown away and Harry
> accidentally winds up with some part of him), maybe part of the soul
> wound up in the inatimate object and part of it wound up in Harry,
OR most of it in the object and only an insignificant amount in Harry,
OR none in the object and an insignificant amount in Harry.
> 
> The last would mean that there were only six completed horcruxes and
> not seven and Harry is completely safe and doesn't have to die for
> Voldemort to die. <snip>

Carol responds:
Hi, Sandra, and welcome. No, we don't know that Harry is a Horcrux or
we wouldn't be debating it. I, for one, don't think so, as you'll see
if you read my posts. I'm not even sure that the soul bit that
resulted from killing Lily (or the one from James, if his death counts
as a murder) was floating around loose in Godric's Hollow. and even if
it was, it could be as innocuous as the "destroyed" soul bits from the
diary and ring Horcruxes. (I say "destroyed" because I think the soul
is immortal and those bits have gone beyond the Veil since they're no
longer encased.)

I don't think it's necessary to have an object with you when you
commit a murder that you use later to create a Horcrux. It seems that
Tom Riddle had no idea how to create a Horcrux (he may not even have
heard of Horcruxes yet) when he committed his first murders (Myrtle,
whom I think counts as a murder, and the three Riddles). I don't think
he had the diary with him when he killed Myrtle since he didn't yet
need an alternate method of killing Muggleborns, and even though he
had the ring with him when he killed his father and grandparents, it
could only contain a soul bit from one of those murders (probably his
fahter's). Certainly, he didn't make it into a Horcrux on the spot. He
didn't know how, as his conversation with Slughorn a few months later
showed. (He was wearing the ring, so the conversation occurred after
the murders.)

I don't think there's a time limit on the murders that can be used to
create a Horcrux. I think he could have killed Harry and then gone to
Hogwarts to steal the Sword of Gryffindor, the ideal Gryffindor
Horcrux. He'd have had to kill Dumbledore to do it, but he'd somehow
have been able to use the soul bit from Harry's murders rather than
Dumbledore's (equally significant) death to make the Horcrux.

It's all very jumbled and confused, but Harry!Horcrux remains a
theory, not canon.

Carol, who thinks there's no such thing as an accidental Horcrux