[HPforGrownups] Re: Views of Hermione

[Janette]

No: HPFGUIDX 160863

>
> Pippin:
> Suppose there had been no charm and Marietta had told Umbridge
> everything. Umbridge still would have  sent for Fudge and his aurors to
> witness her moment of triumph and Dumbledore's humiliation,
> she still would have needed to  stake out the RoR to catch the DA in the
> act, Dobby would still have been able to warn them,  Marietta would
> still have been asked to repeat her evidence in front of Fudge, and
> Shacklebolt would still have stopped her.
>
> Once she'd been obliviated, Marietta was no more use as a witness
> than Crouch Jr, regardless of what she'd said before. Umbridge
> might have known that Dumbledore was less involved than he
> claimed to be, but do you think she would have cared?


montims: that presupposes that Shackleton would have been there - Fudge
could have brought along Aurors who were not in the Order...



> Pippin:




> It was Dumbledore she wanted to oust. Harry was just a crazy
> mixed-up kid as far as Umbridge was concerned, only dangerous
> because he and Dumbledore were insisting that his story was true.


montims: and yet she set the Dementors on Harry, and they would have Kissed
him (and, incidentally, an innocent muggle) if he had not known how to
produce a Patronus.

Back to Hermione - I doubt she anticipated, even if her worst dreams, the
circumstances which led up to this particular Sneak - I think she was just
worried a student would talk to other students, one of whom might have
decided to go to Umbridge and report them, the spots thereby giving everyone
fair warning of the danger.  She believed Umbridge was wicked, but did not
expect that within minutes of Marietta's betrayal Harry would be dragged off
to DD's office to meet the full force of the ministry.


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