Hiding from Voldmort / Moral Relativism (was:Re: witches of the world...

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 160955

Charles:
> Here is where it falls down. What makes a person evil if it is not
> their actions and ideas? Why is Dobby fearful of the Malfoy 
> family? I really can't accept any concept that Narcissa is not
> evil, because I am dead certain that Lucius is not the only Malfoy
> to have abused Dobby. No, I don't have explicit canon proof, just 
> the fact that I cannot see Lucius condescending to speak with 
> Dobby to give him more than one death threat a day.
> 
> If abusive racists are not evil in your opinion, then what the hell
> is?

Jen: I'm not certain if you are talking evil or irredeemably evil, 
Charles? Cause JKR is saying there is hope for the Malfoys, all of 
them, when Dumbledore offers to hide Draco and his family. And 
despite his second chances, even Dumbledore recognizes people who 
are irredeemably evil--Voldemort & Crouch Jr. to name two because I 
can't think of others at the moment <g>.

Writing the Malfoys off misses the point of the series in my 
opinion. Dumbledore is saying there is a right side, and that the 
Malfoys still have the capacity to choose that side, their actions 
have not risen to the level that they are incapable of seeing right 
from wrong. The person who no longer has the capacity to choose is a 
person whose soul has died. 

Lucius appears to be the least likely to have any redemptive 
qualities given his history of Muggle torture, the COS, etc., but 
there's so little information about Narcissa it's difficult for me 
to brand her as evil and write her off. So she's OK with Dumbledore 
dying instead of her son (if she even thinks of it in those terms), 
well if it were my son the thought of sacrificing him for a cause, 
any cause, is unbearable. Some things are universal and love for a 
child goes beyond political affiliation. 

Up to the point of the Vow, and even during the Vow, our information 
about Narcissa is that she's guilty by affiliation--does that rise 
to the level of evil? Compared to Voldemort, the DE's who tortured 
the Longbottoms, the DE's hurting and attempting to kill children in 
the MOM....no, not in my book. 

Jen, who does view Bella in the same vein as Voldemort and Crouch, 
Jr.