Soul bits (Was: CHAPDISC: HBP 23, Horcruxes)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 161003

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, puduhepa98 at ... wrote:
>
> >Carol earlier:
>  
> <snip>
> >The soul bit enebled the memory to possess the reader fo the diary
 (as with Ginny) rather than merely interact with the reader (as  with
> Harry). Note that Harry's excursion into the diary to view  the
> Riddle/Hagrid incident is very similar to his excursions into  the
> Pensieve. He's a witness to events that he sees objectively, from 
the outside, and the memories are not aware of his presence, nor do 
they control his thoughts. The memory is just a memory. Neither it nor
 the soul bit controls or insluences Harry. He just misinterprets it,
 as Diary!Tom intended.
> 
Nikkalmati responded:
>  
> It does seem the memory and the soul bit are separate.  Riddle's 
desire to loose the Basilisk on the school even after he had graduated
predated  the  knowledge and ability to create a Horcrux.

Carol again:
Exactly.

Nikkalmati:
  But how did the memory  propose to entice someone to open the
Chamber just by showing the memory of  Hagrid?  Riddle believed a
Parselmouth heir would come to the school  someday, but how did he 
> propose to get the diary in that person's  hands?  I am wondering
how he originally intend to use it, before  it became a Horcrux.

Carol again:

I'm not sure about the Parselmouth heir. *He* was the Heir of
Slytherin, which is one reason the diary was important to him. I think
he must have put something like an Imperius Curse on it. If a book can
be cursed so that the reader can never put it down, it can be cursed
so that the reader has to follow its instructions. That plus the charm
that draws the person in in the first place might be enough to
accomplish his objective. After all, Fake!Moody Imperio'd Viktor Krum
to Crucio Cedric, and I'm quite sure Viktor had never performed a
Crucio before--maybe didn't even know how to do it effectively. The
same could be true for speaking Parseltongue and opening the chamber.

Carol, who has to meet someone and can't take time to proofread!