Harry not a Horcrux, but Harry's scar IS (was:Re: Horcrux Discussion),
Beatrice23
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Sun Nov 5 18:41:06 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161013
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dhaval" <dnm786 at ...> wrote:
>
> > >>Sandra:
> >> <snip>
> >> My question is: does anybody REALLY know that Harry contains
that last piece of Voldemort's soul? << <snip>
>
> dhaval:
> Harry feels. He feels love. The reason he feels is because he is
human and pure, unlike Voldemort. Therefore when Voldemort enters
Harry's body in the 5th book (GoF) he suffers greater agony than
Harry. Therefore, IMO, he could never have dissociated his soul into
Harry because though Harry would be able to bear it, Voldemort would
feel a lot of pain (not a feasible option).
>
> dhaval
Beatrice:
While I certainly agree that this may simply be a theory that doesn't
pan out one of JKR's red herrings, I think that there is something to
this argument.
On another fan site, someone recently pointed out that while Harry
may not be a horcrux in and of himself, his scar might be a horcrux.
In order to accept this theory, you have to consider the possiblity
that the horcrux could exist relatively undetected and not
intergrated within Harry's body. As dhaval mentions above, Harry is
able to feel and return love which is the anthesis to Voldemort's
existance. What if the love bestowed on Harry by his mother is able
to encase the horcrux? Like the locket, the scar horcrux would
contain a small fraction of LV, but would not pollute Harry's purity,
because it cannot penetrate the barrier of purity that is his
mother's love?
But what kind of textual evidence could we find to support this
idea? Well, let us begin with the prophecy: "THE ONE WITH THE POWER
TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD APPROACHES. . . AND THE DARK LORD WILL MARK
HIM AS HIS EQUAL, BUT HE WILL HAVE A POWER THE DARK LORD KNOWS
NOT. . . AND EITHER MUST DIE AT THE HAND OF THE OTHER FOR NEITHER CAN
LIVE WHILE THE OTHER SURVIVES..." (OotP 841, US). Dumbledore and
many fans have read this as either Harry or LV must murder the other
in order to live. But what I find significant is the second thing in
that sentence "neither can live while the other survives." We are
told several times throughout the text, both from DD directly and
from other sources (namely Fudge in the first chapter of HBP) that LV
isn't really alive and thus cannot be killed. Let me repeat that,
Voldemort cannot be killed because he is not really alive. This is
further explained and confirmed when DD tells Harry about the
horcruxes (HBP). We know that Harry's mission is to track down and
eliminate all horcruxes. When this is accomplished LV will
be "alive" again. With his mortality restored, he will be able to be
killed. Let's leave this for the moment and look at the prophecy
again.
The prophecy continues that "the dark lord will mark him as his
equal, but he will have a power the dark lord knows not." Must
readers conclude and I agree that the power Harry possesses is love.
But what about the act of marking him as an equal? How does a simple
scar mark Harry as LV's equal? If we have learned anything from the
text it is that Harry's scar is not an ordinary scar. It has given
him the ability to speak parseltongue, protects him against people
who wish him ill, and is an emotional link between Harry and LV. DD
theorizes that LV transfered some of his powers during his failed
attempt to kill Harry. But does that make Harry an equal? Would
Harry be more equal if he possessed or more precisely his scar
possessed an equal portion of the Dark Lord's soul? This would
account for the strange emotional connection and Harry's odd
abilities. I suspect that LV became equally suspicious of this when
he realized that Harry was able to read his emotions.
This is the reason why LV possessed Harry in the MoM. LV was
attempting to confirm what he already suspected that Harry was the
recipient of much more that night in Godric's hollow. True, LV
couldn't possess him for very long because of his mother's love, but
it was probably long enough for him to confirm that Harry's scar
contained a portion of his twisted evil soul. In the MoM when LV is
in possession of Harry's body, he taunts DD "'Kill me now,
Dumbledore. . . If death is nothing, Dumbledore, kill the boy...'"
DD assumes that LV was simply trying to provoke him into killing
Harry in the hopes that it would also eliminate the Dark Lord. But
Voldemort realized earlier in their battle that DD was not attempting
to kill him at all, so why would he assume that DD would take out
Harry at this moment? LV knows that DD loves Harry and he expects
him to act like any "fool" would to try to keep Harry alive at any
cost. Thus, LV uses the opportunity of his close proximity to Harry
to test his own theory about Harry's scar. He would taunt DD in this
way, because he knows that he is in no danger of dying, but he
doesn't want DD to realize his true reasons for possessing Harry.
This is why LV is determined to kill Harry himself (see Snape's
flight from Hogwarts HBP). LV hopes to remove the horcrux from
Harry's scar first, probably in some scene reminiscent of GOF's
graveyard scene and then dispose of Harry. This could potentially
allow Harry to survive a final confrontation with Voldemort.
But let's go back to the prophecy for one brief moment, before I
close. Why doesn't DD at least consider the possibility that Harry
is a horcrux? He is after all the greatest wizard of our / Harry's
time. This is true, but he is not infallible. He admits that not
telling Harry about the prophecy is a mistake (OotP). He even
indicates that while his guesses are usually better than other's his
errors are much larger when he makes them. I think that DD has made
an error by not considering it the possibility that Harry's scar is a
horcrux. We can excuse him, because this kind of result has never
been seen before and thus he is navigating uncharted waters and can
only base his conclusions on his somewhat limited vantage point.
Of course if maybe that we all have a limited vantage point when it
comes to Harry Potter 7 and only JKR knows for sure the outcome.
cheers,
Beatrice
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