Pettigrew was Potter's Secretkeeper...
justcarol67
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Mon Nov 6 19:02:34 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161078
zgirnius wrote:
> > I think the way around this is for Harry to travel to the village
of Godric's Hollow, and ask about the house where the explosion
happened 16 years ago. Once he is at the site, he will be able to see
anything he needs to see about his parents, because he lived in that
house.
>
Shelley added:
> Harry lived at that house, so yes, he "magically" already knows
where it is.
> At least, that is my understanding of how that spell works. All
three of the Potters had to have been told by the Secret Keeper to
have even entered the house the first time. I don't think he will need
to ask "where" it is- he will already know.
Carol responds:
Not necessarily. I always imagined the Fidelius Charm being cast on
Pettigrew by Lily when all of them were *in* the house, possibly with
Sirius Black present. Whether they would automatically know the
secret, being part of it, or whether Peter had to tell them (I can
just see James: "What are we all doing here? Where are we?" and PP
having to tell him, "Oh, 'The Potters are hiding in Godric's Hollow.'
That's you, you know. Fidelius charm, mate. That's why Lily pointing
her wand at me." and James say, "Oh, right. Now I remember." And
telling Harry wouldn't do much good at that age. "Daddy and Mummy
here!") Actually, I'm sure that being part of the secret enabled James
and Lily to know it and Harry didn't need to know it. He just needed
to be present when the spell was cast and actually hiding in the house
at the time. And Sirius Black must have been there. He's the only
person we know of other than the SK and the Potters who definitely
knew the Secret, and it was his idea to make Peter the SK in the first
place. Other than that, the Potters probably didn't want anyone, even
Dumbledore, whom they'd turned down as SK, to know the Secret.
So Harry's knowledge of the Secret, which is no longer a secret since
there's no house to hide in and no Potter parents to conceal, is not a
problem. I'm sure he'll be able to find the ruins and that Ron and
Hermione will also be able to see them. So would the MoM or any Muggle
walking by. And the whole WW knows that Voldemort's defeat took place
in the village of Godric's Hollow. If the ruins themselves couldn't be
found, wouldn't the Daily Prophet have made a fuss about it and the
MoM raised an inquiry?
The problem is not Harry finding and visiting his parents' graves and
the scene of their deaths, it's how Dumbledore knew where to send
Hagrid and how Hagrid could find Harry. If Peter Pettigrew told them
the Secret, they'd know that he was the Secret Keeper. So either
Pettigrew sent Dumbledore a note, which he thought was from Sirius
Black, and DD showed it to Hagrid (and Snape?) or the Fidelius Charm
was broken (either through a breach of Fidelity or by the destruction
of the house and the death of two Potters) and Dumbledore suddenly
knew where they were and that they were dead or in serious trouble.
I think he must have known where the Potters were hiding before it
became a Secret (possibly he even provided the house) and I think that
Snape's revealing his faded Dark Mark provided the clue that Harry was
alive and Voldemort either dead or defeated. If DD knew or suspected
that LV had a Horcrux, he'd know it was the latter.
Carol, with apologies to those who've read her opinions on this topic
twelve million times before
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