Pettigrew was Potter's Secretkeeper... Fidelity - a Condition
Steve
bboyminn at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 6 20:04:50 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161092
--- J <tidblgr72 at ...> wrote:
>
> Beatrice: I agree, but I have one minor thought to add
> ... Pettigrew violated the sacred trust of the secret
> keeper by revealing the Potter's location to Voldemort.
> Could it be that the magic was broken because of this
> act and thus the house would be accessible to anyone
> looking after such an act?
>
> ---------------------
>
> Jeremiah:
> It's not about trust. The Secret Keeper can tell anyone
> they want. It's a position based on trust but not
> dependent on it. So, if ... I become the secret keeper.
> I can walk up and tell anyone I like about it. But if
> I'm trusted, and I'm worthy of that trust, then I will
> not tell Macy's. I will only tell those close to you.
>
> Wormtail betrayed the Potter's trust. This, however, is
> not a condition of the magic. It has never been
> specified that it is a condition of the magic.
>
>
bboyminn:
If is primarily about the secret rather than the Trust,
then why isn't it called the 'Specialis Charm'?
specialis : secret, confidential / initimate or special
friend.
It is actually called the 'Fidelius Charm', and that very
strongly implies that 'Fidelity' is at the core of it.
fidelis : faithful, loyal, true
fidelitas : fidelity, loyalty, homage.
fidens : confident, without fear, courageous.
fides : promise, assurance, word of honor, engagement.
fides : trust, confidence, reliance, belief, faith.
fiducia : confidence, trust, assurance.
Notre Dame Latin Dictionary [ http://archives.nd.edu/latgramm.htm ]
I point out again that when Peter tolded Voldemort, he
breached Fidelity, he breached faith, trust, duty, honor,
and loyalty, in the most egregious way possible.
When Dumbledore told Harry about 12 Gimmauld Place via the
note, he did in no way breach his fidelity. He honored his
trust by only telling a trustworthy person; Harry.
My point is that based on the name alone, I think that
Fidelity is very much a condition of the magic. Further,
I have to believe it since it is at the heart of my theory
for how and why the Spell was broken on the night of the
incident at Godrics Hollow.
While you make some good points in general, I have trouble
accepting the idea that 'Fidelity' in the Fidelius Charm
is not a condition of the magic.
Steve/bboyminn
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