Harry not a Horcrux

dungrollin spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 8 08:32:12 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 161227

> > Dungrollin:
> > She's pretty much got that [complete freedom] anyway, given how 
little (and how late) 
> > she's told us about Horcruxes. 
> > 
> 
> Neri:
> Of course she can do everything, but it's not very good writing to
> mount great obstacles only to wave them out of the way with some ad
> hoc explanation. JKR might not be in the habit if working out all 
the details, but I can't remember her doing anything like this 
before. Pitting Harry in a duel against Voldy in GoF was a huge 
obstacle, but the solution (the brother wands), although it was 
rather arbitrary, was carefully prepared since Book 1, so it didn't 
come out as a deus ex machina.
> 
Dungrollin:
Sure, I agree with you, although the scar and mind-link to Voldemort 
have been set up since the first book, and the transferred powers 
and Voldy's immortality-bid from book 2, so we can't really complain 
we didn't get any foreshadowing! The theorists axiom is that that 
book 7 will be consistent with existing canon, but (as we all so 
frustratingly know) not necessarily predictable from it. 

Either the horcrux mechanics questions will never be answered, or 
she can still make up whatever she likes for book 7 (although anti-
harrycruxers will insist that she's definitively made Harrycrux 
impossible, though I don't see how). We all rather heavily rely on 
the fact that she's been thinking about this for a while, and isn't 
about to change her mind about important plot points. If we do find 
out about them, Horcrux mechanics will be canon-consistent, but not 
necessarily predictable - just like the very existence of Horcruxes 
was before we got our teeth into HBP; I certainly wrote my fair 
share of speculative "Why didn't Voldy die" posts, and never came 
anywhere near Horcruxes.


> Neri:
> Hmmm
 actually, it does work in your version. Lets see if I 
understand it. What you say is that a soul bit would naturally be 
attracted to humans. That it actually takes a special effort to make 
a *non-living* Horcrux, including clearing the area first of 
interferring humans? So, if anything goes wrong with the encasing 
spell, and there's an avilable human around, the default result 
would be a living Horcrux? I don't know any special canon for this, 
but it's certainly possible.
> 

Dung:
Yep, that's what I mean. Inanimate objects are not naturally capable 
of holding an immaterial immortal soul, but people (at least within 
the Potterverse) are. And, no, there's no canon!


> > bboyminn:
> > <snipped>
> > Then Voldemort will turn on Harry, but instead of
> > killing Harry he will truly kill himself. He will destroy 
> > (or release) the last remaining soul-bit, the spell will 
> > rebound on a fully mortal Voldemort, and that will be the
> > end. 
> 
Dung:
Why didn't Voldy kill off the bit of Voldysoul when he tried to AK 
baby Harry in GH? Or is that why you intriguingly refer to 'a yet to 
happen set of circumstances?'

Dungrollin






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