CoS -Harry's knowledge of Lord Voldemort- Post 2

Goddlefrood gav_fiji at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 14 01:45:43 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 161497

> Beatrice:
> B. Mr. Borgin runs the shop (no information on Mr. or Ms. Burke)

Goddlefrood:

Well, not at that stage, but now that the books have progressed 
somewhat we have been introduced to Caractacus Burke, Borgin's 
partner. I would suggest that when looking at information in the 
books it is not always useful to look at the facts in isolation. 
Dumbledore himself would indubitably agree with me on this point, 
which is why he uses the Pensieve to seek patterns.

> Beatrice:
> G. Borgin believes in the importance of wizarding blood.

Goddlefrood:

I thought this was somewhat of a fop to Malfoy. Borgin's actual views 
have not been made clear. What has come through about this, so far 
and probably to remain minor character, is that he agrees with 
whomsoever he is talking to but his real opinions are withheld.

> Beatrice:
> 3. Access to the Chamber of Secrets is rumored to be limited
> only to the heir of Slytherin (Slytherin's descendents) (131)

Goddlefrood:

Not so, or so I recall. It was rumoured that only Slytherin's heir 
could open the Chamber but it was not only he / she who could access 
it.

> Beatrice: 
> 4a. Nearly Headless Nick died in 1492 which is 500 years exactly 
from the opening of CoS (133).

His date of death was 31st October 1492, not exactly 500 years from 
the beginning of CoS. All subsequent timelines have been worked out 
from this date, which remians (correct me if I'm wrong) the only 
exact date specified in canon up to the point reached.

> Beatrice
> 5. Tom Marvolo Riddle kept a "blank" diary, purchased in
> Vauxhall Road, London, dating back 50 years prior to the year that
> the Chamber was last opened (231)

Goddlefrood:

The diary was not kept blank, although the wrapping of quotations 
indicates the true meaning well enough. The mechanism for the diary 
being ostensibly blank, in that the entries do not show, has not 
been, and probably will not, be revealed.

> Beatrice: 
> 9. Riddle used "magic" to leave his memories in the diary. He is
> able to "speak" to people who write on the pages (240) (We know 
know that the magic in question here is the horcrux TR encased in the 
> diary - probably after Myrtle's death -HBP).

Goddlefrood:

Do we actually know this? Would not the diary act in the same way if 
the Horcrux were not present? This has not been explained.

> Beatrice:
> 10. Hagrid was expelled for opening the chamber and Myrtle was 
killed on June 13, 1943. (243)

Goddlefrood:

Where did this date come from? Is it from one of the timelines 
wortked out by fans perhaps? No firm date was stated in the book and 
if, as is purported, these posts derive from the books only, then 
should such unverified information be included, and does it progress 
any detection in any event?

> Beatrice:
> A. We know that TR leaves the orphanage to murder his father in
> the summer of his 6th year (one year later). Does he go back to the
> orphanage? Does he leave it at any other time during those
> summers? Does he visit Grindelwald?

Goddlefrood:

Wasn't it in the summer of his fifth year that he murdered his father 
and grandparents? The information regarding what Tom Riddle did while 
at school is all but complete. Better clues might come from 
discussion of what he did between leaving Borgin & Burkes's 
employment and his re-emergence into the wizarding world with a 
vastly changed appearance and name.






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