Dark Magic and Snape / Dark Creatures
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 15 23:49:59 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161558
> >>Carol:
> > Maybe Dark magic has the potential to corrupt the user, to turn
> > him evil or to lead him into an obsession with some unnatural
> > goal, such as immortality or control over others' minds.
> >>a_svirn:
> Maybe. But it seems to me that this hypothesis it at odds with
> your earlier statement about the importance of intent. Is
> Voldemort dark because he *means* to be dark, or has he just sort
> of tumbled into it without really meaning to?
Betsy Hp:
I think, by seeing Voldemort's background, we're told pretty clearly
that young Tom *meant* to go dark. Even before he learns he's a
wizard Tom clearly enjoyed having power over others, enjoyed causing
them pain. It's not the magic that put Tom on the path of becoming
Voldemort; Tom chose to go that way all by himself. Magic merely
provided a means. If Tom hadn't been a wizard he may well have
become a serial killer.
I think power can still be a source of corruption if used
unchecked. But I do think with magic power is power and it's the
way it's *used* that differentiates between good and evil. For
example, Lockhart's abilities with memory charms. The memory charms
aren't dark. Lockhart's abilities with them didn't make him a dark
wizard. But the *way* he used them was bad.
> >>Pippin:
> > But we can't, because that would be saying that there is no good
> > and evil, only power and those too weak to use it. The fact that
> > their ability to distinguish between good and evil is subject to
> > error does not release wizards from trying to make the
> > distinction. The perfect must not be allowed to become the enemy
> > of the good.
> >>a_svirn:
> For once I am in complete sympathy with you, Pippin. The notions
> of Good and Evil cannot be and shouldn't be simply dismissed. But
> why not leave it at that? Why should we multiply essences beyond
> necessity and muddle waters with this Dark Arts thing? If I am a
> wicked person and did some evil deed, shouldn't I be judged and
> condemned for a crime I committed rather than for the means I
> employed to achieve my ends?
Betsy Hp:
You know, I wonder if Voldemort didn't employ the "muddled waters"
to corrupt Quirrell? We know Quirrell was good at his subject
(DADA), so I think it's safe to assume he'd have had a good idea of
what magic is dark and what magic is light as per the MoM (which I'm
assuming is a key source of the current definitions). It'd have
been easy for someone as well-versed and as well-spoken as Voldemort
to start asking some questions. "Why is this spell dark and this
one not?" "Couldn't that dark spell be a benefit on certain
occasions, and that light one an ill?" Talk about devil's advocate!
If the WW has made the MoM's definitions of dark and light magic
their ethical crutch I can see them being quite susceptible to that
sort of manipulation. And I can see them concluding that there's
no good or evil, just power.
Which would suggest that designating light and dark magic *harms*
rather than helps the fight against evil.
Betsy Hp (suspecting Snape may have figured that out, probably
Dumbledore too)
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